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Summit Saga
« on: August 27, 2014, 08:09:40 PM »
Summit Saga has been one of my long time favorite beers and I have searched the net to only find one person with a recipe that has got me fairly close to the original. Im not good enough yet to start making  changes to get me closer to what i want so does any one know where I may find this recipe? I am brewing via BIAB in 5 gallon batches. Thanks,
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Re: Summit Saga
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2014, 08:29:56 PM »
Have you tried contacting the brewery?
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Re: Summit Saga
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2014, 08:42:50 PM »
Summit has posted some information on their website including hops and basic grain bill and a generic comment on yeast.  I'm sure you have that information.  The hops and yeast will get your started and you should be pretty close with two row and a crystal malt to get the color close. 

It is a great beer and experimenting on the grain bill will be delicious.  Good luck.

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Re: Summit Saga
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2014, 12:04:27 AM »
Have you tried contacting the brewery?

No but I guess I have nothing to loose by trying right? They do give the basics on their web site.
And like I said im pretty close right now just not confident enough to tweak on my own.
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Summit Saga
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2014, 12:23:08 AM »
I'd say you have a 50/50 shot of getting the recipe from them. Certainly worth a minute to fire off an email.

Tip - do not ask for a scaled recipe. They won't want to put the effort into converting their brew log into 5 gallons. Then again, I heard Vinnie at Russian River used to keep a PDF handy at Homebrew scale to fire off replies.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2014, 12:25:05 AM by Steve in TX »

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Re: Summit Saga
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2014, 12:46:38 AM »
+1, give Summit a shot. You might get some extra info. But,this is the description from Summit's site  :
 
                                                               OG - 14P (~1.057 OG)
                                                               80 IBU
                                                               6.4% abv
                                                               Malts - 2 Row, Caramel
                                                               Hops -  Amarillo, Citra, Rakau
                                                               Yeast- American Ale
                                                               SRM - 9L



That's not a bad starting point. I haven't had it, but the pics I've seen on Summit's site (and others) show the beer as fairly pale in color (SRM 9L), so I'd use C40, maybe 5- 8% depending on the beer's caramelly character. Mash @ 150F if the body is lighter and more drinkable, maybe 154F if it's fuller bodied. You can plug the hops into your software to get your IBUs right.  I've tried to emulate beers with less starting info. Let us know how it comes out !

« Last Edit: August 28, 2014, 02:50:15 PM by HoosierBrew »
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Re: Summit Saga
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2014, 01:14:56 AM »
Definitely contact the brewery. Saga is one of my favorites as well, would love to have a good clone recipe for it.
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Re: Summit Saga
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2014, 04:48:38 PM »
Definitely contact the brewery. Saga is one of my favorites as well, would love to have a good clone recipe for it.

Well Summit shot me down. They said whats on the website is all they will give out. (in a nice way)
Any way here is what I have that I got from someone else on the web. Pleaese feel free to brew,tweak and check back on this thread. I welcome any input.
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Saga Clone
American IPA (14 B)
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.96 gal
Boil Time: 60 min
End of Boil Vol: 5.46 gal
Final Bottling Vol: 4.75 gal
Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage
Equipment: Pot and Cooler (15/10 gallon)
Efficiency: 65.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 68.2 %
Taste Rating: 30.0
Taste Notes:
10 lbs 12.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 88.9 %
13.4 oz Caramel Malt - 60L (Briess) (60.0 SRM) Grain 2 6.9 %
8.0 oz Carapils (Briess) (1.5 SRM) Grain 3 4.1 %
2.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 77.0 IBUs
0.25 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 mins) Fining 6 -
1.0 pkg American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 ml] Yeast 7 -
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 9 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Rakau (Alpharoma) [10.50 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 10 0.0 IBUs


Gravity, Alcohol Content and Color
Est Original Gravity: 1.057 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.013 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.7 %
Bitterness: 77.0 IBUs
Est Color: 9.0 SRM
Measured Original Gravity: 1.058 SG

Mash Profile
Mash Name: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Sparge Water: 2.83 gal
Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F
Adjust Temp for Equipment: TRUE
Total Grain Weight: 12 lbs 1.4 oz
Grain Temperature: 65.0 F
Tun Temperature: 65.0 F
Mash PH: 5.50
Mash Steps Name Description Step Temperature Step Time
Mash In Add 16.11 qt of water at 168.7 F 152.0 F 60 min
Mash Out Add 7.20 qt of water at 211.4 F 168.0 F 10 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (Drain mash tun , 2.83gal) of 168.0 F water
Mash Notes: Simple single infusion mash for use with most modern well modified grains (about 95% of the time).
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Re: Summit Saga
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2014, 05:47:28 PM »
if you/your system generally need carapils to turn out to your liking, then OK - use it.
otherwise, I don't see how it's going to help you here, and could detract slightly.  Personally I'd say do what you can to get that FG closer to 1.008.

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Re: Summit Saga
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2014, 09:53:19 PM »
Just centennial for the boil additions? Interesting...
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