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woody:
How long cold conditioning does it take for your lagers to drop clear?   Not necessarily "filtered" looking clear, but clear...
Usually after 2-3 weeks at 32, my ales are brilliantly clear, but my lagers tend to hold onto the haze for a bit longer.    I had a Czech pils this summer that refused to clear (until I persuaded it with gelatin)   
My Oktoberfest (with WY 2206) was brilliantly clear within 5-6 weeks.   The last German Pils (Wy 2124) I did still hung onto a tiny bit of haze even after 4-5 weeks.   
fwiw, my cooler is set at 32 (perhaps a degree or two lower-  the beer doesn't freeze, but the condensation tends to ice up on the bottom of the freezer)   

Just curious what others experiences are

crabber:
Do you brew all grain (can't remember)?  It sounds like your haze shows up in Pils based malts.  Do your Pils malt based beers show a lot of protein coagulation in the boil?  Mine do - like a big bowl of egg drop soup.  Do you do a 90 minute boil?

woody:
Yeah, all grain and I do 90 minute (vigurous!) boils.

blatz:
generally two weeks for it to clear, 3 for crystal almost filtered looking.

here's my recent german pils after 3 weeks lagering:



you said you have not gotten into water chem yet - that might be your culprit!

woody:
Yeah I need to get a sample off to ward labs. 

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