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Offline karrezza

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I picked up 9 lbs of Cascade hops in the Moxee Valley. Due to their sloppy harvesting , it falls off the trucks constantly and i was there to grab vines before anyone ran them over!  I also found some wild growing near the farms, in ditches but can tell by identification  methods most likely also Cascade as the Moxee area typically grows only 3 varieties and the others didnt look at all like this.

Anyhoo.. I offered to send to my brother for his friend. He said 9 lbs of fresh hops  (this is wetter, only dried overnight, as I didn't want to ship totally wet, with no cold storage available)  is enough for TWO 5 gallon batches.

TWO??? I looked up the hoppiest recipes and NONE ever come close to maybe 16 oz tops of hops for 5 gal brews, but 4.5 lbs???  its roughly a 4.5 to 7 ibus from what I read.  Is this person crazy?

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Re: Am I thinking they are crazy, or am I missing something? (HOPS QUESTION)
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2014, 05:56:45 PM »
I picked up 9 lbs of Cascade hops in the Moxee Valley. Due to their sloppy harvesting , it falls off the trucks constantly and i was there to grab vines before anyone ran them over!  I also found some wild growing near the farms, in ditches but can tell by identification  methods most likely also Cascade as the Moxee area typically grows only 3 varieties and the others didnt look at all like this.

Anyhoo.. I offered to send to my brother for his friend. He said 9 lbs of fresh hops  (this is wetter, only dried overnight, as I didn't want to ship totally wet, with no cold storage available)  is enough for TWO 5 gallon batches.

TWO??? I looked up the hoppiest recipes and NONE ever come close to maybe 16 oz tops of hops for 5 gal brews, but 4.5 lbs???  its roughly a 4.5 to 7 ibus from what I read.  Is this person crazy?

Generally, a pound of cones with no vines would dry out to about 3-4 ounces.

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Re: Am I thinking they are crazy, or am I missing something? (HOPS QUESTION)
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2014, 06:22:46 PM »
9 lbs fresh hops is the equivalent of roughly 2 pounds of dried hops. I guess that will be alright if he wants to try to stretch that out to 2 batches. FWIW, I use 17 ounces in 3 gallons of IPA, but I admit I have a bit of a hop problem.
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Re: Am I thinking they are crazy, or am I missing something? (HOPS QUESTION)
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2014, 06:34:19 PM »
Well these dried overnight, so I would not consider them totally fresh fully wet hops. But I understand what you are saying. 

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Re: Am I thinking they are crazy, or am I missing something? (HOPS QUESTION)
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2014, 07:22:23 PM »
I have often thought of gleaning hops after the harvesters have gone through a field, but you beat me to it.  I will correct you on one point though - there are a lot of varieties grown in the Moxee area, including several experimental varieties.  When I have considered gleaning, I thought I would ask permission followed by asking which varieties were in which area so I would know what I would have.

It would be so cool to have someone glean while the grain is in the mash tun.  Those volatile oils would have no time to evaporate!  A wet hop Citra/Amarillo APA/AIPA would be delicious!
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Re: Am I thinking they are crazy, or am I missing something? (HOPS QUESTION)
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2014, 08:41:29 PM »
I have never used the equivalent of 14 oz dried in a batch before.  That's quite a bit.  Seems you'd have a huge volume loss from that.  But whatever suits your fancy I guess.
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Re: Am I thinking they are crazy, or am I missing something? (HOPS QUESTION)
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2014, 09:19:53 PM »
FWIW, I like to use ~ a lb (sometimes more) in 5 gallons of AIPA. The loss in 5 gallons is not extensive.
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Re: Am I thinking they are crazy, or am I missing something? (HOPS QUESTION)
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2014, 11:16:06 PM »
From what I understand its about 5x the amount of wet hops for what you'd use dry or pellet? Any who, I too use close to a pound in some IPAs and if you account for the additional loss you still package what you desire
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Re: Am I thinking they are crazy, or am I missing something? (HOPS QUESTION)
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2014, 11:28:51 PM »
The number for wet to commercially dried comes out to 4.6 time wet to dry.
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