Author Topic: Tri-Clamps  (Read 5374 times)

Offline 69franx

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 3125
  • Bloatarian Brewing League
    • View Profile
Tri-Clamps
« on: September 25, 2014, 03:24:04 PM »
Now that I have my new Bru-Gear 15 gallon kettle with tri-clamp fittings for valve and thermometer, i have some questions:
1) When closing the clamps, besides tight enough, how tight should they be tightened? Is finger tight good enough, or tighter
2) How long should I expect the gaskets to last, and where to source replacements
3) I am assuming a big advantage is being able to take apart to fully clean, so I should take apart after each use for cleaning?
4) Looking for suggestions for pick up tube for the valve
5) Any other thoughts on these fittings you can share
Frank L.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:
In keg: Märzen
In Bottles:  
In the works:

Offline Stevie

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 6858
    • View Profile
Re: Tri-Clamps
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2014, 03:44:50 PM »
Never used them, but McMaster-Carr has them for pretty cheap. If I did have them, it's one of those items where I would keep plenty of extras around.


http://www.mcmaster.com/#tri-clamp-tube-fittings/=tvlmvl


What type of connection is on the inside for the pick-up. I would check bargainfittins.com or stainlessbrewing.com

Offline dak0415

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 558
  • Winston-Salem, NC
    • View Profile
Re: Tri-Clamps
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2014, 04:03:35 PM »
Check http://www.brewershardware.com/Standard-3A-Tri-Clover-Tri-Clamp-Gaskets/
He has all types of gaskets including one sided ones for keg fermenters.

You would want PTFE for a kettle.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2014, 04:09:48 PM by dak0415 »
Dave Koenig
Anything worth doing - is worth overdoing!

Offline dkfick

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1054
    • View Profile
Re: Tri-Clamps
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2014, 04:04:56 PM »
http://www.glaciertanks.com/

They also have some pretty good prices on tri-clamp fittings.  I have purchased from both glacier tanks and mcmaster for tri-clamp items... glacier is usually cheaper though if I need something else from mcmaster I'll tack on some if I need more fittings.

As for the logevity of the gaskets... depends on the material they gaskets are made out of... Many of them can be boiled or even thrown in a pressure cooker to sterilize them... then they last more or less forever (unless they start cracking.. but I've been using some of the same ones for years... Have not had one go bad yet.)

Finger tight is all you want the clamp to be on there.. not even super cranked on finger tightness is needed. 

The advantage of tri-clamp is indeed that everything can be cleaned and santitized.. for you boil kettle it might not make that big of a difference... I use most of my tri-clamps on my fermenter... so it's pretty nice to be able to do (though it is a lot more 'things' to clean and sanitize.)

BJCP A0936 National Beer Judge and Mead Judge
Cicerone Certified Beer Server
AHA Member
CRAFT Homebrew Club
Sons of Liberty Homebrew Club
HBT "mors"

Offline dkfick

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1054
    • View Profile
Re: Tri-Clamps
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2014, 04:08:26 PM »
For pick up tube in that thing I think you might be out of luck... I picked one of the Bru Gear kettles as well and was thinking the same thing... It's just a hole... only with a sitting on the outside...
BJCP A0936 National Beer Judge and Mead Judge
Cicerone Certified Beer Server
AHA Member
CRAFT Homebrew Club
Sons of Liberty Homebrew Club
HBT "mors"

Offline Stevie

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 6858
    • View Profile
Re: Tri-Clamps
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2014, 04:23:22 PM »
For pick up tube in that thing I think you might be out of luck... I picked one of the Bru Gear kettles as well and was thinking the same thing... It's just a hole... only with a sitting on the outside...


Seems like an unfortunate oversight. There might be a way to re-purpose a compression fitting with a snug o-ring.

Offline a10t2

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 4503
  • Ask me why I don't like Chico!
    • View Profile
    • SeanTerrill.com
Re: Tri-Clamps
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2014, 04:26:03 PM »
I generally order from Glacier or brewerygaskets.com, depending on what else I need. Brewery Gaskets has free shipping, which is nice.
Sent from my Microsoft Bob

Beer is like porn. You can buy it, but it's more fun to make your own.
Refractometer Calculator | Batch Sparging Calculator | Two Mile Brewing Co.

Offline 69franx

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 3125
  • Bloatarian Brewing League
    • View Profile
Re: Tri-Clamps
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2014, 04:26:34 PM »
For pick up tube in that thing I think you might be out of luck... I picked one of the Bru Gear kettles as well and was thinking the same thing... It's just a hole... only with a sitting on the outside...
I am at work and don't have it in front of me at the moment, but I think for the valve, it is threaded on the kettle side.  It would still be a little awkward, but possible to piece something together, and then have to just tip it back towards the center of kettle at end to get the hole emptied?
EDIT: Never mind, you are correct. The valve threads go onto the TC/NPT adaptor outside the kettle, leaving no threads to attach anything inside the kettle for a pick up.
Back to the drawing board
« Last Edit: September 25, 2014, 04:28:34 PM by 69franx »
Frank L.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:
In keg: Märzen
In Bottles:  
In the works:

Offline Stevie

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 6858
    • View Profile
Re: Tri-Clamps
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2014, 04:34:47 PM »
The threads on the coupler don't go all the way through?

Offline 69franx

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 3125
  • Bloatarian Brewing League
    • View Profile
Re: Tri-Clamps
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2014, 04:37:26 PM »
Not that I recall. The coupler has male threaded end to connect to threaded female valve opening and I don think the threads go through the other side of connection, but again, I am not in front of it right now so I cannot say for sure
Frank L.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:
In keg: Märzen
In Bottles:  
In the works:

Offline Alewyfe

  • Brewer
  • ****
  • Posts: 493
  • Fighting for Truth, Justice & Home Brew
    • View Profile
Re: Tri-Clamps
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2014, 04:45:30 PM »
What size is the tri-clamp ferule? I ordered a kettle from them as well, but mine hasn't arrived yet.
If the ferule is 1 1/2" there are a number of solutions available as tri-clamp pick up tubes. The tubes have two ferules attached. One to clamp to the kettle and one to clamp to your valve. If it is 1", there is nothing currently available that I know of because the tubes won't fit through the 1".
Diane
Roseburg, Oregon
Member: Umpqua Valley Brewers Guild
             Cascade Brewers Society
             AHA

"Have no fear of perfection...you'll never reach it" ~Salvador Dali

"Growing old is mandatory. Growing up? Definitely optional!"

Offline dkfick

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1054
    • View Profile
Re: Tri-Clamps
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2014, 04:47:17 PM »
Yeah it's just a tri-clamp ferrule welded to the outside of the kettle.. THe threads he's referring to are on a tri-clamp to NPT fitting used to connect the ball valve that came with it (at least that's how mine is)... maybe someone out there makes a tri-clamp adaptor with NPT threads on both the external and internal...
BJCP A0936 National Beer Judge and Mead Judge
Cicerone Certified Beer Server
AHA Member
CRAFT Homebrew Club
Sons of Liberty Homebrew Club
HBT "mors"

Offline dkfick

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1054
    • View Profile
Re: Tri-Clamps
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2014, 04:48:18 PM »
What size is the tri-clamp ferule? I ordered a kettle from them as well, but mine hasn't arrived yet.
If the ferule is 1 1/2" there are a number of solutions available as tri-clamp pick up tubes. The tubes have two ferules attached. One to clamp to the kettle and one to clamp to your valve. If it is 1", there is nothing currently available that I know of because the tubes won't fit through the 1".

It's 1 1/2 but there isn't a ferrule inside the kettle only external.
BJCP A0936 National Beer Judge and Mead Judge
Cicerone Certified Beer Server
AHA Member
CRAFT Homebrew Club
Sons of Liberty Homebrew Club
HBT "mors"

Offline dkfick

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1054
    • View Profile
Re: Tri-Clamps
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2014, 04:49:22 PM »
I guess you could always get a racking arm like a conical fermenter would use... http://www.glaciertanks.com/Racking_Arm_60-90_Degree-Racking_Arm_1_60_Degree_with_1_1_2_TriClamp.html
BJCP A0936 National Beer Judge and Mead Judge
Cicerone Certified Beer Server
AHA Member
CRAFT Homebrew Club
Sons of Liberty Homebrew Club
HBT "mors"

Offline a10t2

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 4503
  • Ask me why I don't like Chico!
    • View Profile
    • SeanTerrill.com
Re: Tri-Clamps
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2014, 04:56:37 PM »
It doesn't need to be sanitary, right? I'd probably just hammer a drilled silicone stopper into it, and shove some tubing in.
Sent from my Microsoft Bob

Beer is like porn. You can buy it, but it's more fun to make your own.
Refractometer Calculator | Batch Sparging Calculator | Two Mile Brewing Co.