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what happens when you give a blond too much banana
« on: October 13, 2014, 07:50:19 PM »
 :o ok got your attention

anyway, first time using wyest 1214 for my belgian blond. wyeast has 68-78F and that seems crazy, but i had left for the evening and my temp slowly rose from 67F to 76F (all in the first 24hrs).

i can certainly smell the banana and im hoping i dont taste as much as i smell- - crap crap crap hopefully it doesnt taste too bad.

i presume this yeast would be best at 65-68F - any regular users of this yeast experienced 65-68 vs mid 70's?
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Re: what happens when you give a blond too much banana
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2014, 07:55:47 PM »
:o ok got your attention

anyway, first time using wyest 1214 for my belgian blond. wyeast has 68-78F and that seems crazy, but i had left for the evening and my temp slowly rose from 67F to 76F (all in the first 24hrs).

i can certainly smell the banana and im hoping i dont taste as much as i smell- - crap crap crap hopefully it doesnt taste too bad.

i presume this yeast would be best at 65-68F - any regular users of this yeast experienced 65-68 vs mid 70's?

I wish you the best - the first time I used it I had a similar temp spike (fridge died) and ended up with a pretty banana forward beer. It has a nice plum thing at 64-65F, but 76F could be a banana bomb. I hope not.

EDIT  - Nice thread title  :)
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Re: what happens when you give a blond too much banana
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2014, 07:58:38 PM »
:o ok got your attention

anyway, first time using wyest 1214 for my belgian blond. wyeast has 68-78F and that seems crazy, but i had left for the evening and my temp slowly rose from 67F to 76F (all in the first 24hrs).

i can certainly smell the banana and im hoping i dont taste as much as i smell- - crap crap crap hopefully it doesnt taste too bad.

i presume this yeast would be best at 65-68F - any regular users of this yeast experienced 65-68 vs mid 70's?

I wish you the best - the first time I used it I had a similar temp spike (fridge died) and ended up with a pretty banana forward beer. It has a nice plum thing at 64-65F, but 76F could be a banana bomb. I hope not.

EDIT  - Nice thread title  :)

yes afraid im going to have more of a high tes 7.2% abv hefeweizen tasting beer
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Re: what happens when you give a blond too much banana
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2014, 08:06:55 PM »
I have heard many others complain of too much banana with that yeast.  From what I've gathered, this yeast needs to stay in mid-60s for the first half of fermentation to avoid the banana bomb.  It should mellow with age though.  Give it 3 months and it will fade.
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Re: what happens when you give a blond too much banana
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2014, 08:11:50 PM »
I have heard many others complain of too much banana with that yeast.  From what I've gathered, this yeast needs to stay in mid-60s for the first half of fermentation to avoid the banana bomb.  It should mellow with age though.  Give it 3 months and it will fade.

seems so. i figure worst case, the chicks in my neighborhood beer drinking circle love a good banana beer, so it should disappear fairly fast.
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Re: what happens when you give a blond too much banana
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2014, 09:41:41 PM »
My wife loves that Wells Banana Bread beer, so I can see the ladies going for a banana-y flavor profile, regardless of the color of their hair!
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Re: what happens when you give a blond too much banana
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2014, 09:48:22 PM »
Not to be too much of a wet blanket but I have to share my extreme annoyance with the 'girls like fruity beer' stereotype.

The majority of women that i know who like beer like beer. hoppy beer, malty beer, german beer, belgian beer, IPAs, IIPAs, barley wines. you name it. I have also run into a surprising number of guys who don't care for anything more challenging than a coors light or an american wheat beer when they are feeling extra adventurous. These guys find a nice blueberry pale ale (assuming it's not too hoppy) just the treat.

I understand the desire for a shorthand for 'folks that only like fruity beers' but does it have to be based in sexism?

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Re: what happens when you give a blond too much banana
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2014, 10:46:57 PM »
Not to be too much of a wet blanket but I have to share my extreme annoyance with the 'girls like fruity beer' stereotype.

The majority of women that i know who like beer like beer. hoppy beer, malty beer, german beer, belgian beer, IPAs, IIPAs, barley wines. you name it. I have also run into a surprising number of guys who don't care for anything more challenging than a coors light or an american wheat beer when they are feeling extra adventurous. These guys find a nice blueberry pale ale (assuming it's not too hoppy) just the treat.

I understand the desire for a shorthand for 'folks that only like fruity beers' but does it have to be based in sexism?

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not a slam or sexism-just the facts in my circle...that's why i said in my circle of friends :)
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Re: what happens when you give a blond too much banana
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2014, 10:52:18 PM »

The majority of women that i know who like beer like beer. hoppy beer, malty beer, german beer, belgian beer, IPAs, IIPAs, barley wines. you name it. I have also run into a surprising number of guys who don't care for anything more challenging than a coors light or an american wheat beer when they are feeling extra adventurous. These guys find a nice blueberry pale ale (assuming it's not too hoppy) just the treat.


That is the truth. I know/have known a lot of women who thought that they hated beer based on BMC type swill, but realized that they love craft beer. They're more open to it than guys who spent decades drinking crap and have a hard time straying too far from the most inoffensive craft beer styles.
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Re: what happens when you give a blond too much banana
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2014, 10:57:18 PM »
My lady hates hoppy beers. Too bad that is what I am into right now. Loves most other styles, but will only drink something hoppy if it is the only option.

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Re: what happens when you give a blond too much banana
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2014, 11:02:52 PM »
My lady is also a fan of almost everything I put in front of her. IPA's are her one dislike. She has come a long way from her strictly coors light days of just 4 short years ago. I also have several friends that I can't drag away from BMC flavored water


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Re: what happens when you give a blond too much banana
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2014, 11:06:43 PM »
........Yeah, except for my wife of course  ;D   She'd be a teetotaler if hoppy beers were the only alcohol around. She will drink one or two of anything else I brew, but given the choice she'd rather I brewed nothing but fruit beers. Can't abide, though I'll make her 2 or 3 /year.
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Re: what happens when you give a blond too much banana
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2014, 11:12:24 PM »

........Yeah, except for my wife of course  ;D   She'd be a teetotaler if hoppy beers were the only alcohol around. She will drink one or two of anything else I brew, but given the choice she'd rather I brewed nothing but fruit beers. Can't abide, though I'll make her 2 or 3 /year.
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Re: what happens when you give a blond too much banana
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2014, 11:17:29 PM »

........Yeah, except for my wife of course  ;D   She'd be a teetotaler if hoppy beers were the only alcohol around. She will drink one or two of anything else I brew, but given the choice she'd rather I brewed nothing but fruit beers. Can't abide, though I'll make her 2 or 3 /year.
and I will say, my wife has grown fond of my pale ale with centennial and citra. The hops giving a nice citrus attribute seems to appeal to those less inclined for hoppy beers- myself included.


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Re: what happens when you give a blond too much banana
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2014, 11:56:47 PM »

........Yeah, except for my wife of course  ;D   She'd be a teetotaler if hoppy beers were the only alcohol around. She will drink one or two of anything else I brew, but given the choice she'd rather I brewed nothing but fruit beers. Can't abide, though I'll make her 2 or 3 /year.
and I will say, my wife has grown fond of my pale ale with centennial and citra. The hops giving a nice citrus attribute seems to appeal to those less inclined for hoppy beers- myself included.



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Yeah, I regrettably made a 'fruit bomb' pale ale once, in an attempt to get my wife to like hops. She actually drank 2 or 3 and said she loved the aroma but the flavor was 'ok'. However it was way too fruity for me so I had to have some friends over to help me kill it. I know I used Citra along with either Calypso or El Dorado. Not again.

EDIT  -   I do like Citra blended with stuff like Centennial, Columbus, etc. Just don't care for multiple fruity hops together without a balance.
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