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double IPA
« on: October 14, 2014, 04:03:27 AM »
Here's my first attempt at a double IPA recipe.

Thoughts and criticism welcome

Batch size 25 liters (aiming for ~ 20 liters into the keg)
OG 1.082
IBU 103
Est FG 1.012
Est ABV 9.4%

Grist
7 kg US pale malt
1 kg us munich
1 kg evaporated cane juice

Mash at 65c for 75 minutes

Hops
30 grams homegrown cascade FWH
30 grams centennial FWH
30 grams citra FWH

25 grams HG cascade 20 minute whirlpool
25 grams centennial 20 minute whirlpool
25 grams citra 20 minute whirlpool

25 grams HG cascade 3 day dry hop
25 grams centennial 3 day dry hop
25 grams citra 3 day dry hop

pull the first dry hop and repeat for 3 more days.

what do all y'all think?

 
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Re: double IPA
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2014, 04:29:08 AM »
Change the grams to ounces and you should be OK  ;D

Seriously, though... less than 3 ounces in the whirlpool isn't going to cut it for a 5-gallon batch of IIPA. Two ounces per gallon is a good start. Having double the amount of dry hops vs whirlpool additions is backwards. If you hit the whirlpool hard, then you don't need a truckload of dry hops.

Grist and mash look good. Make sure you're in the 200-300ppm range for sulfate (or higher if you prefer).
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Re: double IPA
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2014, 04:41:04 AM »
I like how those hops play together. Too much citra for me, but with cascade and centennial it's good.

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Re: double IPA
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2014, 12:09:42 PM »
I like the hop combo. I am one who promotes a 60 minute hop addition to work with the FWH. I feel that it gives a big beer like this a little more backbone. I usually use Columbus for my 60 minute additions in IIPA, IPA, and APAs.

You probably predicted this... I'm going to agree with Eric on this one... I'd at least double the whirlpool addition and/or dry hop additions.
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Re: double IPA
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2014, 12:18:49 PM »
I like the grist, sugar and low mash temp - pretty spot on. I think a 40 minute stand @ 170F with 6-8 oz of your hop blend and using ~ 6 oz of dry hops will give you a killer beer. I love the flavor and aroma you get from the cool hopstand but still find dry hopping to give the best aroma. Lots of good approaches out there.

EDIT -   +1 to high sulfate here, ~ 300ppm. It will obviously enhance hop character but also give a drier finish, as opposed to the sweet finish that so many IIPAs have.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2014, 12:39:37 PM by HoosierBrew »
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Re: double IPA
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2014, 01:57:38 PM »
for sure going for a high sulfate water. using the bru'n water pale ale profile.

I do have more hops. I've got

(converted to ounces for the metrically disinclined)
6 oz centennial
6 oz citra
5 oz cascade

I've got some willamette and maybe a bit of magnum, and a few other odds and ends as well but I don't want to go crazy.

I'll up the whirlpool amounts. and the whirlpool time.
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Re: double IPA
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2014, 02:07:35 PM »
for sure going for a high sulfate water. using the bru'n water pale ale profile.

I do have more hops. I've got

(converted to ounces for the metrically disinclined)
6 oz centennial
6 oz citra
5 oz cascade

I've got some willamette and maybe a bit of magnum, and a few other odds and ends as well but I don't want to go crazy.

I'll up the whirlpool amounts. and the whirlpool time.
I think your blend is pretty good. I wouldn't mess around with other hop varieties - just up the amounts. The only exception is if you have something dank/piny like Chinook/Columbus/Simcoe. The varieties you're using are pretty citrus-forward, and Cascade can be pretty floral sometimes. A touch of pine on the palate might be a good counterpoint.
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Re: double IPA
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2014, 02:11:22 PM »
+1.  Even an oz of Columbus/Chinook/Simcoe steeped or dry can give balance to the citrus and floral tones. I think it'll be a great beer.
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Re: double IPA
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2014, 02:34:41 PM »
well I've still got to order the grain so maybe I'll toss an ounce of something dank on the order as well.
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Re: double IPA
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2014, 03:46:56 PM »
Personally I love the combination of Citra and Simcoe. I think they play together really well. The grain bill looks good. Just up the hops. If I recall, the Pliny style recipe in BCS uses about a pound of hops in 5 gallons, and calculates to a theoretical 200+ IBU, so you can't really overhop this style.