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curious what peoples favorite malt(s) (what % / qty) is to flip your house hefeweizen into a dunkelweizen?

looking for something new to try.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2014, 06:37:29 PM by wort-h.o.g. »
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Re: what malt do you prefer to turn your hefeweizen into a dunkelweizen?
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2014, 06:33:45 PM »
It's more than just color to me. Dunkelweizens are richer than a straight up hefe. I like about 30% Munich, a half pound of CaraMunich III and then a dehusked roast malt to adjust for color (Carafa Special or Midnight Wheat).
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Re: what malt do you prefer to turn your hefeweizen into a dunkelweizen?
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2014, 06:37:10 PM »
It's more than just color to me. Dunkelweizens are richer than a straight up hefe. I like about 30% Munich, a half pound of CaraMunich III and then a dehusked roast malt to adjust for color (Carafa Special or Midnight Wheat).

agreed on the "more than color". i should have said malt(s).
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Re: what malt(s) do you prefer to turn your hefeweizen into a dunkelweizen?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2014, 01:59:27 PM »
me thinks the dunkelweizen fans are limited here  :P
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Re: what malt(s) do you prefer to turn your hefeweizen into a dunkelweizen?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2014, 02:16:15 PM »
I like Dunkelweizen too, and like the 30% Munich with maybe 6-8% Caramunich.

EDIT  -  Forgot a couple oz of Midnight Wheat as well.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2014, 02:23:53 PM by HoosierBrew »
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Re: what malt(s) do you prefer to turn your hefeweizen into a dunkelweizen?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2014, 03:02:43 PM »
What Eric said is pretty much spot on....and Jon. Dunkelweizen has a bit less of the yeast character and a bit more of the munich malt sweetness, in my experience.
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Re: what malt(s) do you prefer to turn your hefeweizen into a dunkelweizen?
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2014, 02:03:35 AM »
I use 32% dark wheat, 30.5% Munich, 30% pale wheat, 6% cara Munich, and 1.5% carafa ii dehusked.


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Re: what malt(s) do you prefer to turn your hefeweizen into a dunkelweizen?
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2014, 02:43:42 AM »
That sounds like a good recipe. Good and malty with a nice clove/banana character...
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Re: what malt(s) do you prefer to turn your hefeweizen into a dunkelweizen?
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2014, 03:54:55 AM »
I use 32% dark wheat, 30.5% Munich, 30% pale wheat, 6% cara Munich, and 1.5% carafa ii dehusked.

I've never used the dark wheat malt. Is it like the wheat equivalent of Munich? What kind of flavor do you get out of it.

I haven't brewed a dunkelweizen in a while. I might have to schedule one for the early spring. It's actually a fun style to play around with spices. I brewed a Vanilla Dunkelweizen a few years ago that was really nice. I'm thinking some combination of cacao, cinnamon and/or vanilla the next time I brew one.
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Re: what malt(s) do you prefer to turn your hefeweizen into a dunkelweizen?
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2014, 10:10:13 AM »
I use 32% dark wheat, 30.5% Munich, 30% pale wheat, 6% cara Munich, and 1.5% carafa ii dehusked.

I've never used the dark wheat malt. Is it like the wheat equivalent of Munich? What kind of flavor do you get out of it.

I haven't brewed a dunkelweizen in a while. I might have to schedule one for the early spring. It's actually a fun style to play around with spices. I brewed a Vanilla Dunkelweizen a few years ago that was really nice. I'm thinking some combination of cacao, cinnamon and/or vanilla the next time I brew one.

its a bit more maltiness than pale wheat at about 7 lovi, and i think it makes a great addition to the munich and cara munich maltiness.
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Re: what malt(s) do you prefer to turn your hefeweizen into a dunkelweizen?
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2014, 10:51:31 AM »
I like the dark wheat. I've done all dark wheat and Munich with a percentage of pils to assure complete conversion with good results. I've also done the regular wheat with dark Munich and a touch of carafa or midnight wheat with also great, though different, results. You can't go wrong with either one. Though I think I do prefer the dark wheat and munich grist.

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Re: what malt(s) do you prefer to turn your hefeweizen into a dunkelweizen?
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2014, 11:25:11 AM »
I like the dark wheat. I've done all dark wheat and Munich with a percentage of pils to assure complete conversion with good results. I've also done the regular wheat with dark Munich and a touch of carafa or midnight wheat with also great, though different, results. You can't go wrong with either one. Though I think I do prefer the dark wheat and munich grist.

yeah ive done the pils additions, but at some point i decided to skip the pils so i could keep 60%+ wheat and still have my 30% munich malt in the grist. the pale wheat or white wheat seem to convert well and have higher diastatic power for conversion.
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Re: what malt(s) do you prefer to turn your hefeweizen into a dunkelweizen?
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2014, 11:48:33 AM »
I like the dark wheat. I've done all dark wheat and Munich with a percentage of pils to assure complete conversion with good results. I've also done the regular wheat with dark Munich and a touch of carafa or midnight wheat with also great, though different, results. You can't go wrong with either one. Though I think I do prefer the dark wheat and munich grist.

yeah ive done the pils additions, but at some point i decided to skip the pils so i could keep 60%+ wheat and still have my 30% munich malt in the grist. the pale wheat or white wheat seem to convert well and have higher diastatic power for conversion.

That's why I said I add pils to the dark wheat version. Anytime you have a majority base malt darker kilned malts it is a very good idea to have some pils in there to assure conversion. In my case - dark wheat, dark munich - a small portion of pils does the trick.

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Re: what malt(s) do you prefer to turn your hefeweizen into a dunkelweizen?
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2014, 11:51:18 AM »
I've never used the dark wheat, but it sounds pretty interesting. I'll have to try it next time I brew a dunkelweizen.
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Re: what malt(s) do you prefer to turn your hefeweizen into a dunkelweizen?
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2014, 12:01:58 PM »
I like the dark wheat. I've done all dark wheat and Munich with a percentage of pils to assure complete conversion with good results. I've also done the regular wheat with dark Munich and a touch of carafa or midnight wheat with also great, though different, results. You can't go wrong with either one. Though I think I do prefer the dark wheat and munich grist.

yeah ive done the pils additions, but at some point i decided to skip the pils so i could keep 60%+ wheat and still have my 30% munich malt in the grist. the pale wheat or white wheat seem to convert well and have higher diastatic power for conversion.

That's why I said I add pils to the dark wheat version. Anytime you have a majority base malt darker kilned malts it is a very good idea to have some pils in there to assure conversion. In my case - dark wheat, dark munich - a small portion of pils does the trick.

yeah, agreed. its early and i missed that ::)
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