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Which hops do NOT play well together
« on: November 15, 2014, 12:21:46 PM »
Making a IIPA, with the idea us using up the last of my 2013 hops. Which of these would NOT play well together:

Columbus
Citra
Cascade
Amarillo
Northern Brewer
Sterling
Cascade
EKG
Hallertauer Mittelfrueh
Horizon

I'm thinking that most should be fine together EXCEPT Hallertauer, EKG and Sterling. But I'd love your opinions!
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Re: Which hops do NOT play well together
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2014, 01:20:42 PM »
Making a IIPA, with the idea us using up the last of my 2013 hops. Which of these would NOT play well together:

Columbus
Citra
Cascade
Amarillo
Northern Brewer
Sterling
Cascade
EKG
Hallertauer Mittelfrueh
Horizon

I'm thinking that most should be fine together EXCEPT Hallertauer, EKG and Sterling. But I'd love your opinions!

I'd use Columbus, Cascade,Citra, Amarillo and Mittelfrueh. Matter of fact I think I have. Worked well.
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Re: Which hops do NOT play well together
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2014, 01:33:07 PM »
Reminds me... if someone wants some hops and wants to PayPal the shipping, they're yours. I don't want to toss them and don't want to brew a whatchgot IPA either. 3/4# simcoe whole, 1/3# simcoe pellets, 1/2# mt hood, 4 individual ounces of mosaic. Should all fit in a USPS flatrate envelope. $10?

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Re: Which hops do NOT play well together
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2014, 01:49:23 PM »
Reminds me... if someone wants some hops and wants to PayPal the shipping, they're yours. I don't want to toss them and don't want to brew a whatchgot IPA either. 3/4# simcoe whole, 1/3# simcoe pellets, 1/2# mt hood, 4 individual ounces of mosaic. Should all fit in a USPS flatrate envelope. $10?

Actually those three hops would play well together, so it wouldn't be a reach at all to make an IPA with them. It'd be good. If my freezer wasn't full (overly) I'd take you up on it !
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Re: Which hops do NOT play well together
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2014, 01:50:10 PM »
I used Amarillo and Hallertauer Mittelfrueh in my Rye India Pale Lager and liked the results.  You could bitter with Columbus for an extra layer of complexity.
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Re: Which hops do NOT play well together
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2014, 02:19:35 PM »

Reminds me... if someone wants some hops and wants to PayPal the shipping, they're yours. I don't want to toss them and don't want to brew a whatchgot IPA either. 3/4# simcoe whole, 1/3# simcoe pellets, 1/2# mt hood, 4 individual ounces of mosaic. Should all fit in a USPS flatrate envelope. $10?
Jim you're crazy. Whatchagot could be awesome.

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Re: Which hops do NOT play well together
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2014, 02:30:58 PM »
To the OP, Sterling will be really nice. I'd skip the NB's, the EKGs, the Horizon and maybe the HMf. 4-5 hop varieties is my limit before things start getting muddled.
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Re: Which hops do NOT play well together
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2014, 02:57:02 PM »

Reminds me... if someone wants some hops and wants to PayPal the shipping, they're yours. I don't want to toss them and don't want to brew a whatchgot IPA either. 3/4# simcoe whole, 1/3# simcoe pellets, 1/2# mt hood, 4 individual ounces of mosaic. Should all fit in a USPS flatrate envelope. $10?
Jim you're crazy. Whatchagot could be awesome.

Ok I'll hang on to them and do up a huge 100ibu IIpa

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Re: Which hops do NOT play well together
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2014, 03:34:45 PM »
4-5 hop varieties is my limit before things start getting muddled.


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Re: Which hops do NOT play well together
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2014, 05:33:32 PM »
4-5 hop varieties is my limit before things start getting muddled.

And I'd bet that most good recipes using 5+ hops started out with fewer.
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Re: Which hops do NOT play well together
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2014, 02:30:35 AM »
Thanks for all the input! I ended up using Columbus for a 60 minute addition, and then Amarillo, Cascade and Citra for 15, 10, 5, and whirlpool additions. I'll dry hop with Cascade and Citra.
Thanks again for the help!
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Re: Which hops do NOT play well together
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2014, 01:18:12 PM »
Thanks for all the input! I ended up using Columbus for a 60 minute addition, and then Amarillo, Cascade and Citra for 15, 10, 5, and whirlpool additions. I'll dry hop with Cascade and Citra.
Thanks again for the help!

That sounds delicious.  You should probably send me some when it's ready for proper analysis....

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Re: Which hops do NOT play well together
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2014, 02:34:06 AM »
Thanks for all the input! I ended up using Columbus for a 60 minute addition, and then Amarillo, Cascade and Citra for 15, 10, 5, and whirlpool additions. I'll dry hop with Cascade and Citra.
Thanks again for the help!

That sounds delicious.  You should probably send me some when it's ready for proper analysis....
LOL! It would probably be cheaper to fly you here!
I sent beer ONE time to someone whose opinion I wanted, telling him I would send it BEFORE I checked on shipping costs. HOLY H*** that is expensive! I could have brewed a 5 gallon pale ale with what it cost!
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Re: Which hops do NOT play well together
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2014, 04:33:15 PM »
I wouldn't use the Amarillo if they are pellets. I haven't like anything I've brewed with Amarillo pellets from the 2013 crop. There were lots of complaints going around about them.
And you have Cascade listed twice on your list :)

I'd probably go Columbus, Cascade, Citra, and maybe bitter with Horizon.
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