Right there with you Ken. Had 2 batches that did not turn out as expected. 1 had a lot of the bandaid bs, I hated to even smell it, but SWMBO has been drinking it. 2nd batch was just off: I think it was a carry over from my Saison, could not drink it, had to dump. Luckily my Märzen turned out great, but went too fast. Hoarding a couple bottles of everything else for Holiday sharing. All this leaves me with about 1 six pack of Split Open And Melt RIS from Big Brew Day left. Dunkel is lagering for another 1.5 weeks, and BVIP has only been in primary for 1.5 weeks. If not for the Dunkel lagering, the chest freezer would be about empty. Its going to be a lean late November ad early December for home brew around my house