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Re: long tail?
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2014, 10:03:46 am »
not to mention your beer is likely better think you give it credit for....toughest critics are ourselves.

No no, seriously, I've tasted hundreds of different beers over the last few years. Believe me, I know world-class when I see it.  I hope to get to "good" in a year or so.
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Re: long tail?
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2014, 04:20:43 pm »
not to mention your beer is likely better think you give it credit for....toughest critics are ourselves.

No no, seriously, I've tasted hundreds of different beers over the last few years. Believe me, I know world-class when I see it.  I hope to get to "good" in a year or so.
If you can drink it and keep it down its GOOD.

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Re: long tail?
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2014, 09:05:27 pm »

not to mention your beer is likely better think you give it credit for....toughest critics are ourselves.

No no, seriously, I've tasted hundreds of different beers over the last few years. Believe me, I know world-class when I see it.  I hope to get to "good" in a year or so.
If you can drink it and keep it down its GOOD.
Thanks Jim, more great stuff!
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Re: long tail?
« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2014, 07:59:04 am »
I think the thing that attracts me most to brewing is the art of the craft. It's learning your equipment, ingredients and techniques and fine tuning them to constantly make small improvements on your beer. If I ever reached a point where there was not something more to learn, a new toy to buy or a new process to master I'd probably get board and take up square dancing.

So my point is, stick with it. Small fine turning over years and years is what makes you into a master craftsman. And the more you learn the more you learn there is more to learn.

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Re: long tail?
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2014, 08:08:13 am »
I think the thing that attracts me most to brewing is the art of the craft. It's learning your equipment, ingredients and techniques and fine tuning them to constantly make small improvements on your beer. If I ever reached a point where there was not something more to learn, a new toy to buy or a new process to master I'd probably get board and take up square dancing.

So my point is, stick with it. Small fine turning over years and years is what makes you into a master craftsman. And the more you learn the more you learn there is more to learn.

^^^^^^^  Couldn't agree more. It's the great thing about a true craft - there's no finish line. Always more to learn.
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Re: long tail?
« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2014, 08:37:33 am »
So my point is, stick with it. Small fine turning over years and years is what makes you into a master craftsman. And the more you learn the more you learn there is more to learn.

Just hoping I won't have to fine tune my beers too much down the drain...
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Re: long tail?
« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2014, 08:39:01 am »
It is the 10000 hour rule, me thinks. Once you master it, you still need to practice. Always something new to learn as far as technique, equipment, and ingredients.
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Re: long tail?
« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2014, 09:06:23 am »
So my point is, stick with it. Small fine turning over years and years is what makes you into a master craftsman. And the more you learn the more you learn there is more to learn.

Just hoping I won't have to fine tune my beers too much down the drain...

Yeah, me too! I. Very happy with most of my beers. But if I'm unhappy with it at all it does go down the drain. Thankfully it's been a while since I had to do that, but I do have 12 gallons of dunkel that has a touch of diacetyl I'm trying to fix right now.

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Re: long tail?
« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2014, 09:07:31 am »
It is the 10000 hour rule, me thinks. Once you master it, you still need to practice. Always something new to learn as far as technique, equipment, and ingredients.

As much as I want to disprove Malcom Gladwell's 10,000 hour assertion, I find that it is pretty much spot on. 

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Re: long tail?
« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2014, 09:15:20 am »
Yeah, me too! I. Very happy with most of my beers. But if I'm unhappy with it at all it does go down the drain. Thankfully it's been a while since I had to do that, but I do have 12 gallons of dunkel that has a touch of diacetyl I'm trying to fix right now.

There was a point back in the nineties where I was brewing often enough that any batch that had any noticeable flaw was dumped.   I no longer have that luxury.

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Re: long tail?
« Reply #40 on: December 20, 2014, 09:18:13 am »
Yeah, me too! I. Very happy with most of my beers. But if I'm unhappy with it at all it does go down the drain. Thankfully it's been a while since I had to do that, but I do have 12 gallons of dunkel that has a touch of diacetyl I'm trying to fix right now.

There was a point back in the nineties where I was brewing often enough that any batch that had any noticeable flaw was dumped.   I no longer have that luxury.

I don't brew for myself any longer. Every beer I brew is for the brewery. I still brew to my tastes, but I can't let a flawed beer ever come in contact with my customers. Unfortunately I can't help what happens once it leaves the brewery but I can guarantee you will not get a bad beer when you are at my place.

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Re: long tail?
« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2014, 02:28:30 pm »
Well, if it is the 10,000 liters rule, I'm at 100.  :P
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Re: long tail?
« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2014, 02:42:58 pm »
FWIW, my tap water is pretty good

Do you measure mash pH? Your RA is ~100 ppm CaCO3, so you might see some improvements in lighter beers by diluting and/or adding hardness.
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Re: long tail?
« Reply #43 on: December 21, 2014, 04:14:37 am »
FWIW, my tap water is pretty good

Do you measure mash pH? Your RA is ~100 ppm CaCO3, so you might see some improvements in lighter beers by diluting and/or adding hardness.

Got myself a cheap Chinese pH meter, which I found impossible to calibrate. So now I have a good one and will start using it with my next brew.

And the alkalinity chapter I skipped during my first lecture of "Water". I guess I'll have to delve into it now...
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