Membership questions? Log in issues? Email info@brewersassociation.org

Author Topic: how much hops for late hop additions  (Read 5051 times)

Offline erockrph

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 7788
  • Chepachet, RI
    • The Hop WHisperer
Re: how much hops for late hop additions
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2014, 11:31:20 am »
I said I wanted numbers. That doesn't mean that I will then pick any odd number.
Well if odd numbers are out, then that leaves either 2 or 4 oz/gallon. :)
Eric B.

Finally got around to starting a homebrewing blog: The Hop Whisperer

Offline flbrewer

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2161
Re: how much hops for late hop additions
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2014, 01:58:42 pm »
FWIW, I just did a hop heavy extract kit with loads of late additions. Figures below for a 5 gallon kit.
Hop Stand (Flame out)
-2 oz. Simcoe
-1 oz. Columbus
-.5 oz Apollo

Hop Stand (180 degrees)
-1 oz. Columbus
-1 oz. Simcoe
-1 oz. Amarillo
-.5 oz. Centennial
-.5 oz. Apollo

Dry Hops (First addition)
-1 oz. Simcoe
-.5 oz. Columbus
-.5 oz. Amarillo
-.5 oz. Centennial
-.25 oz. Apollo

Dry Hops (Second addition)
-1 oz. Simcoe
-.5 oz. Columbus
-.5 oz. Centennial
-.25 oz. Apollo


Offline blatz

  • Official Poobah of No Life. (I Got Ban Hammered by Drew)
  • *********
  • Posts: 3513
  • Paul Blatz - Jupiter, FL
Re: how much hops for late hop additions
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2014, 03:16:38 pm »
FWIW, I just did a hop heavy extract kit with loads of late additions. Figures below for a 5 gallon kit.
Hop Stand (Flame out)
-2 oz. Simcoe
-1 oz. Columbus
-.5 oz Apollo

Hop Stand (180 degrees)
-1 oz. Columbus
-1 oz. Simcoe
-1 oz. Amarillo
-.5 oz. Centennial
-.5 oz. Apollo

Dry Hops (First addition)
-1 oz. Simcoe
-.5 oz. Columbus
-.5 oz. Amarillo
-.5 oz. Centennial
-.25 oz. Apollo

Dry Hops (Second addition)
-1 oz. Simcoe
-.5 oz. Columbus
-.5 oz. Centennial
-.25 oz. Apollo

how far away from me do you live  ;D ?
The happiest people don’t necessarily have the best of everything; they just make the best of everything they have.

BJCP National: F0281

Offline HoosierBrew

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 13031
  • Indianapolis,IN
Re: how much hops for late hop additions
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2014, 03:36:20 pm »


how far away from me do you live  ;D ?

+1.  Gotta say it, looks good.  :D

Jon H.

Offline flbrewer

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2161
Re: how much hops for late hop additions
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2014, 03:42:42 pm »
Yeah, certainly the best smelling and tasting beer I've brewed to date. Of course, the proof will be in a couple of weeks when it's carbed up. The kit isn't cheap, I think it was around $55. Ton's of hops obviously and a Yeast Bay vial.

Offline troybinso

  • Brewer
  • ****
  • Posts: 475
Re: how much hops for late hop additions
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2014, 06:46:57 pm »
A good starting point would be to find an accurate recipe for a commercial IPA that you can buy and see what kind of hops that gives you.

S. cerevisiae

  • Guest
Re: how much hops for late hop additions
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2014, 11:53:18 am »
Ounces per gallon without oil ratings is about as useful when making late additions as is ounces per gallon without alpha acid ratings when making bittering additions.   Essential oils, not alpha acids are what matters most in late additions.  Zeus with an oil rating of 2.5 milliliters of oil per 100 grams of dried hops is 1.67 times as potent as Zeus with an oil rating of 1.5 milliliters of oil per 100 grams of dried hops from a late hopping point of view.

For example, here is a complete Alpha Analytics hop analysis for an unknown variety that I grew this past summer:





While the GC Oil Profile report is complete overkill, the 1.81% v/w oil rating (1.81 milliliters of oil per 100 grams of dried hops) on the Certificate of Analysis is a critical late addition value that most hop brokers fail to include.  All of the hops that Mark Garetz used to sell when he owned HopTech carried an oil rating, which made consistent late hopping a no-brainer.

Offline coolman26

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 920
Re: how much hops for late hop additions
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2014, 11:40:45 am »
I really never had any vendor show hop oil numbers.  I noticed Yakima shows that with some of their hops.  Makes perfect sense for consistent production.  My favorite IPA uses about 1.15oz/gallon.  My stand varieties are equal weights of Columbus, Centennial, Falconer's Flight, Amarillo, Simcoe. 
I dry hop with Simcoe, Amarillo, Cascade, and Citra @ 1oz/gal for 8 days.
Speaking of this, time to make another batch!   
Jeff B

S. cerevisiae

  • Guest
Re: how much hops for late hop additions
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2014, 12:30:11 pm »
Here's a link to an article that Glenn Tinseth wrote about hop essential oils for Brewing Techniques back in 1993 (man, I miss that magazine): http://morebeer.com/brewingtechniques/library/backissues/issue2.1/tinseth.html

Offline coolman26

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 920
Re: how much hops for late hop additions
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2014, 12:45:53 pm »
Thanks for the link.  Nice information on the hop tea. 
Jeff B