Author Topic: Speidel staining  (Read 1142 times)

Offline flbrewer

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2161
    • View Profile
Speidel staining
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:36:18 PM »
For the first time I have some hop stains on my Speidel plastic fermenter. I've soaked with water for a few days and scrubbed with a soft/semi-soft sponge with no improvement.

Anyone use these and have luck with other chemicals? Perhaps it doesn't really matter beyond cosmetics.

Offline dkfick

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1054
    • View Profile
Re: Speidel staining
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2014, 02:27:10 PM »
Stains and smells were my biggest issue with plastic fermenters.  All my bucket fermenters would experience this same issue.  I ended up just always soaking them for like a month with oxyclean/pbw and if the smell still didn't leave then I would stick it outside in the sun for a few days and it would usually clear up mostly...
BJCP A0936 National Beer Judge and Mead Judge
Cicerone Certified Beer Server
AHA Member
CRAFT Homebrew Club
Sons of Liberty Homebrew Club
HBT "mors"

Offline kramerog

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1813
    • View Profile
    • My LinkedIn page
Re: Speidel staining
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2014, 03:14:11 PM »
I really like the 7 Generations Ahead liquid laundry detergent recommended by Better Bottle for removing hop oils on the side of Better Bottles.  It does a great job in emulsifying the oils and turning the water cloudy. But it doesn't work nearly as well for removing Oxyclean for removing general dirt.

Offline reverseapachemaster

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 3144
    • View Profile
    • Brain Sparging on Brewing
Re: Speidel staining
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2014, 03:42:45 PM »
I've always had good luck soaking my stained buckets with oxyclean for a week or so. I know the power of oxyclean is supposed to wear off after an hour or whatever but it seems to take a few days for the stains to go away.
Heck yeah I blog about homebrewing: Brain Sparging on Brewing

Offline flbrewer

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2161
    • View Profile
Re: Speidel staining
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2014, 04:18:18 PM »
So Oxi and PBW are safe w plastic?

Offline Stevie

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 6858
    • View Profile
Re: Speidel staining
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2014, 05:50:53 PM »
So Oxi and PBW are safe w plastic?
Sure, at the normal concentration they should be fine. I soak my better bottles in solution of 2 scoops (or lines) of oxiclean filled to the top. I remember seeing an article about PBW and Oxiclean cracking better bottles, but they were using it in higher concentration if I remember correctly.

Online majorvices

  • Global Moderator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 9642
  • Polka. If its too loud you're too young.
    • View Profile
    • Yellowhammer Brewing Company
Re: Speidel staining
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2014, 06:04:55 PM »
I use a little bleach and oxi on mine.

Offline dixonmike20

  • Cellarman
  • **
  • Posts: 36
    • View Profile
Re: Speidel staining
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2015, 10:43:35 PM »
Oxi on my Speidels and haven't had staining yet.

Offline klickitat jim

  • I must live here
  • **********
  • Posts: 8479
    • View Profile
Re: Speidel staining
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2015, 01:52:33 AM »
My oxyclean comes at max concentration in a plastic bucket, so I'm hoping its safe. And I use oxyclean every time I clean them, hot soaked till they look clean, then drain and soft scrub with a microfiber dish cloth. Never stains, no odors.

Online majorvices

  • Global Moderator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 9642
  • Polka. If its too loud you're too young.
    • View Profile
    • Yellowhammer Brewing Company
Re: Speidel staining
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2015, 12:40:09 PM »
I use a little bleach and oxi on mine.

+2.  ;) Homebrewers who are afraid to use bleach on their fementors are like folks who are so paranoid about sanitation that they sanitize their mash tun. Rinse with hot water and let air dry and there is no complication.

I haven't had any staining on mine yet. I also wouldn't worry too much about it if I did. I think the fear of scratches and staining are way over blown.

Offline coolman26

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 780
    • View Profile
Re: Speidel staining
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2015, 09:08:46 PM »
+10 on this.  I've never worried about any smell or stain on my fermenters.  My next brew changes the smell and have never noticed anything from the prior batch.  I've never bleached, but I will give it a try.  Not that I like having any odors, just have never worried much about it.  If I worried, I'd go stainless.
Jeff B

Online majorvices

  • Global Moderator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 9642
  • Polka. If its too loud you're too young.
    • View Profile
    • Yellowhammer Brewing Company
Re: Speidel staining
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2015, 02:39:42 AM »
And every one knows this but just in case: never bleach stainless!

Offline rjharper

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 646
    • View Profile
    • Angry Scotsman Brewing
Re: Speidel staining
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2015, 11:42:22 PM »
I've never had an issue with staining or smells on plastic that a good soak (and I only mean an hour or two) with PBW wont shift.

Offline jimmykx250

  • Brewer
  • ****
  • Posts: 328
    • View Profile
Re: Speidel staining
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2015, 01:45:47 PM »
Ive noticed my plastic fermenters have gotten the aroma as well. Im wondering why i dont hear more people here using bar keepers friend?
Jimmykx250

Offline Stevie

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 6858
    • View Profile
Re: Speidel staining
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2015, 06:10:28 PM »

Ive noticed my plastic fermenters have gotten the aroma as well. Im wondering why i dont hear more people here using bar keepers friend?
Never tried it on plastic. I figure it would be far too abrasive.