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Re: Crisp Maris Otter
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2014, 05:17:36 pm »

You are all making me so happy with this purchase! I was going to brew my bock this weekend and use the MO after the new year, but now I'm dying to put it to use. Now can I find a way to brew on sat and Sunday around the Clowns v Bungles game on Sunday, that is the question



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Re: Crisp Maris Otter
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2014, 05:22:10 pm »
Anyone know a site where I can plug this batch number in to get any available specifics?


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if the sack says glen eagles, it is indeed floor malted MO. glen eagles is the trade name for floor malted, vs. crsip made in silos.

Crisp owns Gleneagles, it is in Scotland, and does floor maltings. Also pretty dark stuff at 5.2L.
http://www.certifiedfoods.com/glen.htm

Crisp is floor malted or done in Salidin boxes, not silos. BSG says they floor malt the MO. It might come down to which plant. 4.2L
http://www.certifiedfoods.com/maris.htm

www.crispmalt.co has plenty of pictures of floor maltings. One might have to contact them to find out for sure.

interesting. this is what ive understood- perhaps its not accurate vs what you describe:

Crisp's Gleneagle® Maris Otter Malt is an heirloom varietal that is World renowned for its deep, rich flavor.  It is considered Heirloom because it is an old variety with a very low yield of 1.5-2 tons per acre.  Modern varietals now produce up to 4 tons per acre.  Why do farmers grow Maris Otter when new high-yield, disease resistant varietals are available? Because Craft Brewers around the World are willing to pay a premium for the complex, authentic pub flavor that Maris Otter provides.

Please note this is the distinguished Glen Eagles version of Crips Maris Otter. Crips produces two types of the Maris Otter malt. A regular version malted in modern silos and this exclusive Glen Eagles version of their Maris Otter that is floor malted by hand in the traditional way. This malt is obviously great for all English style Ales but is perfectly suited for any beer where you want a rich, bready malt flavor.

edit: i believe that the branding may be the point of confusion. from what i understand, when labeled Crisp or Crisp Finest, its not the floor malter variety and is lower lovi. when Labeled Crisp GlenEagles, its the floor malted version and indeed is 5+ lovi.
All Gleneagles is floor malted, some Crisp is floor malted as they still have a floor maltings. What we get is not so clear. The Finest is not floor malted, but I don't remember a sack saying that.

Maybe Mallett's book will say something about the floor malted producers.
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Re: Crisp Maris Otter
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2014, 05:22:58 pm »

Anyone know a site where I can plug this batch number in to get any available specifics?


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if the sack says glen eagles, it is indeed floor malted MO. glen eagles is the trade name for floor malted, vs. crsip made in silos.

Crisp owns Gleneagles, it is in Scotland, and does floor maltings. Also pretty dark stuff at 5.2L.
http://www.certifiedfoods.com/glen.htm

Crisp is floor malted or done in Salidin boxes, not silos. BSG says they floor malt the MO. It might come down to which plant. 4.2L
http://www.certifiedfoods.com/maris.htm

www.crispmalt.co has plenty of pictures of floor maltings. One might have to contact them to find out for sure.

interesting. this is what ive understood- perhaps its not accurate vs what you describe:

Crisp's Gleneagle Maris Otter Malt is an heirloom varietal that is World renowned for its deep, rich flavor.  It is considered Heirloom because it is an old variety with a very low yield of 1.5-2 tons per acre.  Modern varietals now produce up to 4 tons per acre.  Why do farmers grow Maris Otter when new high-yield, disease resistant varietals are available? Because Craft Brewers around the World are willing to pay a premium for the complex, authentic pub flavor that Maris Otter provides.

Please note this is the distinguished Glen Eagles version of Crips Maris Otter. Crips produces two types of the Maris Otter malt. A regular version malted in modern silos and this exclusive Glen Eagles version of their Maris Otter that is floor malted by hand in the traditional way. This malt is obviously great for all English style Ales but is perfectly suited for any beer where you want a rich, bready malt flavor.

edit: i believe that the branding may be the point of confusion. from what i understand, when labeled Crisp or Crisp Finest, its not the floor malter variety and is lower lovi. when Labeled Crisp GlenEagles, its the floor malted version and indeed is 5+ lovi.
All Gleneagles is floor malted, some Crisp is floor malted as they still have a floor maltings. What we get is not so clear. The Finest is not floor malted, but I don't remember a sack saying that.

Maybe Mallett's book will say something about the floor malted producers.

Yeah seems very confusing.


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Re: Crisp Maris Otter
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2014, 05:40:41 pm »

You are all making me so happy with this purchase! I was going to brew my bock this weekend and use the MO after the new year, but now I'm dying to put it to use. Now can I find a way to brew on sat and Sunday around the Clowns v Bungles game on Sunday, that is the question
I use floor malted MO in a pale ale with cascade, centennial and citra and it's extremely tasty. Experiment with it- you'll likely find a great deal of uses for it.


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Re: Crisp Maris Otter
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2014, 06:33:18 pm »
I am jealous! i would love to try Heirloom variety. i really love a bitter i make them frequently
The "Heirloom" part of that statement is referring to Maris Otter, not specific process. Maris Otter is an heirloom variety of malting barley.
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Re: Crisp Maris Otter
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2014, 12:00:21 pm »
I am jealous! i would love to try Heirloom variety. i really love a bitter i make them frequently
The "Heirloom" part of that statement is referring to Maris Otter, not specific process. Maris Otter is an heirloom variety of malting barley.

and 'old' in this case is relative. it was invented in the 1960's. hit a low spot in the 1980's where it almost went extinct and then had a comeback.
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Re: Crisp Maris Otter
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2014, 12:09:49 pm »
I received an email from a contact at Crisp, who gave me no info but only asked where I am located, I responded and will see where it goes. I assured her in my response that I was really only looking for product info after seeking advice here. We shall see what she comes up with. Hope I did not cause a problem for a distributor, LHBS, etc and she was only looking for info to get me the pertinent info.
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Re: Crisp Maris Otter
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2014, 05:07:16 am »
Just got another email from Crisp: my bag is as stated in this thread, floor malted Maris Otter Ale Malt. Thanks for all the input. She is also trying to find me a spec a sheet through BSG
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