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Re: Vienna in a Kolsch
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2014, 06:17:12 PM »
I like a single first wort addition. Nelson, while way out of style, is my favorite for kolsch.

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Re: Vienna in a Kolsch
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2014, 06:24:50 PM »
true to style would be no hop additions in the last 30 min per Daniels.

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Re: Vienna in a Kolsch
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2014, 06:34:05 PM »
Along with the OP, is there any stylistic issues using a considerable amount (10% or more?) in a Kolsch? It seems that as long as Pilsner is the dominant grain then amounts of wheat, munich, or Vienna are acceptable?

there are only stylistic issues if it no longer looks, smells, tastes, and/or feels like a kolsch. beer are judged on perception not recipe. I would guess that 10% munich or vienna wouldn't push a beer that far out of style but it's just a guess.
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Re: Vienna in a Kolsch
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2014, 02:52:31 PM »
mine is 75% Pils, 25% Kolsch malt; Kolsch malt being fairly similar to Vienna I could definitely see giving it a shot.

I haven't used the kolsch malt yet. Next time I want to use some - I've heard pretty good reviews on it so far.

ive switched to kolsch malt and really like it. worth trying to see what you perceive as being different.
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Re: Vienna in a Kolsch
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2014, 08:49:06 PM »
i also use 5% light munich in my kolsch.

as far as hops, ketih from the forum suggested FWH with my hallertau and I really  liked the difference...just a thought.
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Re: Vienna in a Kolsch
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2014, 11:10:22 PM »
i also use 5% light munich in my kolsch.

as far as hops, ketih from the forum suggested FWH with my hallertau and I really  liked the difference...just a thought.

my kolsch is more or less keiths recipe. and I agree ont he hallertaur FWH as the way to go. makes for a pretty easy brew day too because you add the hops, watch for the boil and then wait 90 minutes.
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Re: Vienna in a Kolsch
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2014, 03:03:26 AM »

i also use 5% light munich in my kolsch.

as far as hops, ketih from the forum suggested FWH with my hallertau and I really  liked the difference...just a thought.

my kolsch is more or less keiths recipe. and I agree ont he hallertaur FWH as the way to go. makes for a pretty easy brew day too because you add the hops, watch for the boil and then wait 90 minutes.

Yeah FWH and the kolsch malt took my kolsch to new heights IMO.


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Dort
Mead                 
Cider                         
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Amber Ale
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Re: Vienna in a Kolsch
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2014, 08:57:01 PM »

i also use 5% light munich in my kolsch.

as far as hops, ketih from the forum suggested FWH with my hallertau and I really  liked the difference...just a thought.

my kolsch is more or less keiths recipe. and I agree ont he hallertaur FWH as the way to go. makes for a pretty easy brew day too because you add the hops, watch for the boil and then wait 90 minutes.

Yeah FWH and the kolsch malt took my kolsch to new heights IMO.


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Re: Vienna in a Kolsch
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2014, 08:58:54 PM »


i also use 5% light munich in my kolsch.

as far as hops, ketih from the forum suggested FWH with my hallertau and I really  liked the difference...just a thought.

my kolsch is more or less keiths recipe. and I agree ont he hallertaur FWH as the way to go. makes for a pretty easy brew day too because you add the hops, watch for the boil and then wait 90 minutes.

Yeah FWH and the kolsch malt took my kolsch to new heights IMO.


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My kolsch needs a lot of work hopwise. Is the FWH the only hop addition?
No not for me.
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Vienna IPA          O'Fest
Dort
Mead                 
Cider                         
Ger'merican Blonde
Amber Ale
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Re: Vienna in a Kolsch
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2014, 11:10:45 PM »
I like a single FWH addition a lot. I have been normally use about .5-.75 ounces per 5 gallons depending on the hop.

Like someone said earlier, a single fwh addition makes for an easy brew day. All I need to worry about is the whirlfloc and that can be anywhere between 10 and 5 minutes left.

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Re: Vienna in a Kolsch
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2014, 09:08:53 PM »


i also use 5% light munich in my kolsch.

as far as hops, ketih from the forum suggested FWH with my hallertau and I really  liked the difference...just a thought.

my kolsch is more or less keiths recipe. and I agree ont he hallertaur FWH as the way to go. makes for a pretty easy brew day too because you add the hops, watch for the boil and then wait 90 minutes.

Yeah FWH and the kolsch malt took my kolsch to new heights IMO.


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My kolsch needs a lot of work hopwise. Is the FWH the only hop addition?
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it is for me. Hops are really a supporting roll in this style I think. They need to be there and a hint of that floral noble thing heightens the experience but it's just a hint
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Re: Vienna in a Kolsch
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2014, 09:14:47 PM »
+2 to FWH only for kolsch. Not a hop oriented style.
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Re: Vienna in a Kolsch
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2014, 11:51:44 PM »
How about water profile? Yellow balanced or malty?
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Re: Vienna in a Kolsch
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2014, 12:32:11 AM »
Yellow Balanced for me on the last one. Liked it quite a bit.
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