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Re: Allergic to Judy's Brown Ale?
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2014, 09:50:29 am »
You don't have to search online too hard to see people mentioning allergic reactions to whirlfloc.
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Re: Allergic to Judy's Brown Ale?
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2014, 07:20:34 pm »
I took a sample of the offending batch of JBA to a BIER club meeting, and no one detected Diacetyl, so
I'm going to make another batch of JBA, no Whirlfloc (I'll use Irish Moss), or English Ale Yeast (I'll use US-05).  I'll be using the normal grist, which includes rye & oats.  It'll take a month or so to see how it goes.  Thanks, All.
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Re: Allergic to Judy's Brown Ale?
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2014, 08:20:38 pm »
I took a sample of the offending batch of JBA to a BIER club meeting, and no one detected Diacetyl, so
I'm going to make another batch of JBA, no Whirlfloc (I'll use Irish Moss), or English Ale Yeast (I'll use US-05).  I'll be using the normal grist, which includes rye & oats.  It'll take a month or so to see how it goes.  Thanks, All.

I gotta say if it turns out to be the whirlfloc I'll feel a bit vindicated in sticking to good old irish moss all these years.
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Re: Allergic to Judy's Brown Ale?
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2014, 04:02:39 am »
I took a sample of the offending batch of JBA to a BIER club meeting, and no one detected Diacetyl, so
I'm going to make another batch of JBA, no Whirlfloc (I'll use Irish Moss), or English Ale Yeast (I'll use US-05).  I'll be using the normal grist, which includes rye & oats.  It'll take a month or so to see how it goes.  Thanks, All.

I gotta say if it turns out to be the whirlfloc I'll feel a bit vindicated in sticking to good old irish moss all these years.
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Re: Allergic to Judy's Brown Ale?
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2014, 06:45:33 am »
I went over to Google and searched 'allergic to water' thinking I'd find some crazy claim on blog somewhere. Maybe a group of people trying to eliminate water from their diet!?  Instead I found stories from actual news companies about people who get hives when their skin gets wet. So ... I guess it could really be anything.
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Re: Allergic to Judy's Brown Ale?
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2014, 07:08:40 am »
I thought Whirlfloc and Irish Moss had the same active ingredient, carageenan. 

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Re: Allergic to Judy's Brown Ale?
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2014, 07:20:58 am »

I thought Whirlfloc and Irish Moss had the same active ingredient, carageenan.
Same here. Maybe an email to the manufacture explaining your situation is in order.

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Re: Allergic to Judy's Brown Ale?
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2014, 07:48:35 am »
I thought Whirlfloc and Irish Moss had the same active ingredient, carageenan. 

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Re: Allergic to Judy's Brown Ale?
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2014, 08:46:57 am »
I thought Whirlfloc and Irish Moss had the same active ingredient, carageenan. 

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they do. I would suspect, if it's that at all, that the ingredient causing the reaction is a binder or a surfactant that add to the whirlfloc to make it into a tablet or to make it dissolve more quickly.
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Re: Allergic to Judy's Brown Ale?
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2014, 09:09:41 am »
I thought Whirlfloc and Irish Moss had the same active ingredient, carageenan. 

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they do. I would suspect, if it's that at all, that the ingredient causing the reaction is a binder or a surfactant that add to the whirlfloc to make it into a tablet or to make it dissolve more quickly.

Makes sense. Seems like a long list of possible suspects, though.
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Re: Allergic to Judy's Brown Ale?
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2014, 11:43:22 am »
I thought Whirlfloc and Irish Moss had the same active ingredient, carageenan. 

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they do. I would suspect, if it's that at all, that the ingredient causing the reaction is a binder or a surfactant that add to the whirlfloc to make it into a tablet or to make it dissolve more quickly.

I have found ione reference to the binder being baking soda and another to it being wax.  The former seems more likely.
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Re: Allergic to Judy's Brown Ale?
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2014, 11:49:21 am »
I thought Whirlfloc and Irish Moss had the same active ingredient, carageenan. 

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they do. I would suspect, if it's that at all, that the ingredient causing the reaction is a binder or a surfactant that add to the whirlfloc to make it into a tablet or to make it dissolve more quickly.
I've heard that its just bicarb, although I can't find an MSDS to confirm this. In which case it's unlikely to be an allergy to that. As a matter of fact, carrageenan is much more likely to be the cause for an allergy than most of the ingredients that would be used in a tablet in general. Not to say that it's not possible - just not likely.
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