[hoprod]

I'm curious to see if anyone else who has used Avangard Pils malt has experienced a lower predicted mash pH than expected via a program such as Bru'n Water.  The last two beers I've made, one of which 2/3 of the grist was Avangard Pils and the other which was 100% except for some acidulated malt, had a measured pH of .2 (at 2/3 of grist) - .3 (at 100% of grist) lower than my Bru'n Water calculations estimated.

I know this is a documented phenomenon with Rahr base malts, but curious if anyone else has had this experience.

[hopfenundmalz]

The bag of Rahr I bought had a tag that said it made wort of 3.5 SRM, so it is more like a Vienna as far as acidity. Martin had noted that is should be entered around 3.5 or 4 L in Bru'nwater IIRC.

The Pils I brewed with Avangard came a little darker than expected (can't remember pH). You might want to do a mini-mash and compare the wort SRM to another pils malt, or use a color card if you have one.

[jweiss206]

I haven't checked the PH the two times I've used it as the base malt in my cream ale, but the best efficiency I've ever achieved was when using the Avangaard Pilsen. No idea if it's related.

[hopfenundmalz]

I haven't checked the PH the two times I've used it as the base malt in my cream ale, but the best efficiency I've ever achieved was when using the Avangaard Pilsen. No idea if it's related.

My beers have come out with higher OG than expected with this malt, a few points. Others have reported the same on various forums.

[HoosierBrew]

I haven't checked the PH the two times I've used it as the base malt in my cream ale, but the best efficiency I've ever achieved was when using the Avangaard Pilsen. No idea if it's related.

My beers have come out with higher OG than expected with this malt, a few points. Others have reported the same on various forums.

+2.  I've been a few points high every time with Avangard pils.

[hoprod]

I haven't checked the PH the two times I've used it as the base malt in my cream ale, but the best efficiency I've ever achieved was when using the Avangaard Pilsen. No idea if it's related.

My beers have come out with higher OG than expected with this malt, a few points. Others have reported the same on various forums.

+2.  I've been a few points high every time with Avangard pils.

Same here.  Despite a mash pH that was around 5.0 measured by my Milwaukee meter instead of my predicted 5.3 via Bru'n Water, I still got great efficiency.