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Fruit for Saison
« on: January 03, 2015, 03:27:11 PM »
I want to use up more of this past years fruit harvest from this past summer and fall that is taking up freezer space. I happen to be making a saison today and figured I would rack it onto some fruit after primary. I have raspberries, elderberries, wild grapes and peaches. I was leaning towards the grapes but wondered if that would be too intense. Any thoughts?
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Fruit for Saison
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2015, 03:29:56 PM »
Grapes might make it appear dry, which wouldn't b a bad thing. Split the batch and try two, grapes and something safe.

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Re: Fruit for Saison
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2015, 03:31:45 PM »
I'm dying to make a Saison with grape must (Muscat). I'd crush the grapes up , bag em, and use them in secondary  .
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Re: Fruit for Saison
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2015, 03:46:53 PM »
The grapes and elderberries are definitely the most intriguing.
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Re: Fruit for Saison
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2015, 05:03:06 PM »
I'm dying to make a Saison with grape must (Muscat). I'd crush the grapes up , bag em, and use them in secondary  .
Same here. My thought is Gewurz or Sauv. Blanc with late Nelson Sauvin additions.
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Re: Fruit for Saison
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2015, 05:16:14 PM »
I'm dying to make a Saison with grape must (Muscat). I'd crush the grapes up , bag em, and use them in secondary  .
Same here. My thought is Gewurz or Sauv. Blanc with late Nelson Sauvin additions.

Yeah, Nelson was my thought, too. It's definitely on the to do list.
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Re: Fruit for Saison
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2015, 11:54:20 PM »
I'm dying to make a Saison with grape must (Muscat). I'd crush the grapes up , bag em, and use them in secondary  .
Same here. My thought is Gewurz or Sauv. Blanc with late Nelson Sauvin additions.

Yeah, Nelson was my thought, too. It's definitely on the to do list.

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Re: Fruit for Saison
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2015, 04:51:23 AM »
I don't have any Nelson Sauvin but maybe I can get some in time to dry hop. I'm making the saison tomorrow and will be on retreat from wednesday Jan 7 to Jan 14 so maybe after then I'll rack onto the grapes and some N.S. Dry hops that I'll order. I have some cultivated white wine grapes I grew that I'll mix with the wild ones to cut the tartness. I think I'll put the elderberries in a ESB. " Your father smelled of Elderberries..."
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Re: Fruit for Saison
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2015, 04:59:28 AM »
YVH just got some nelson in stock.

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Re: Fruit for Saison
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2015, 02:29:15 PM »
I think I'll go grape in secondary. I usually add a bit of sugar to saisons to accentuate dryness but I'm thinking with the grapes I'll skip that. I might add 15% rye malt and the rest belgian pils. I'm using belle saison yeast.
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Re: Fruit for Saison
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2015, 06:52:23 PM »
Not really saison, but still, very dry beer: Cantillon makes two types of fruit lambic with grapes: Vigneronne,  with Italian white grapes (I think very sweet muscat), and Saint Lamvinus, with  (red) merlot and cabernet-franc from the Burgundy region.

In both cases instead of sugar a sweet liqueur is added to carbonate.
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Re: Fruit for Saison
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2015, 07:04:04 PM »
I've had some Cantillon beers, but not those. They sound great.
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Re: Fruit for Saison
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2015, 12:32:16 AM »
They do sound good. I ordered some Nelson sauvin. I'm going to rack onto our wild grapes and the ns hops after primary. Ended up with a grist of Bel pils, aromatic and wheat flakes. 1.064 OG . Buttered w/ tettnang late hops were ekg.
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Re: Fruit for Saison
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2015, 12:33:44 AM »
Auto correct turned bitter into butter.
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Re: Fruit for Saison
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2015, 06:03:35 PM »
Now I'm wondering if the grapes even though frozen will bring some wild yeast or other bugs to the party for good or ill.
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