[pete b]

I want to use up more of this past years fruit harvest from this past summer and fall that is taking up freezer space. I happen to be making a saison today and figured I would rack it onto some fruit after primary. I have raspberries, elderberries, wild grapes and peaches. I was leaning towards the grapes but wondered if that would be too intense. Any thoughts?

[Stevie]

Grapes might make it appear dry, which wouldn't b a bad thing. Split the batch and try two, grapes and something safe.

[HoosierBrew]

I'm dying to make a Saison with grape must (Muscat). I'd crush the grapes up , bag em, and use them in secondary  .

[pete b]

The grapes and elderberries are definitely the most intriguing.

[erockrph]

I'm dying to make a Saison with grape must (Muscat). I'd crush the grapes up , bag em, and use them in secondary  .

Same here. My thought is Gewurz or Sauv. Blanc with late Nelson Sauvin additions.

[HoosierBrew]

I'm dying to make a Saison with grape must (Muscat). I'd crush the grapes up , bag em, and use them in secondary  .

Same here. My thought is Gewurz or Sauv. Blanc with late Nelson Sauvin additions.

Yeah, Nelson was my thought, too. It's definitely on the to do list.

[Black Sands Brewery & Supply]

I'm dying to make a Saison with grape must (Muscat). I'd crush the grapes up , bag em, and use them in secondary  .

Same here. My thought is Gewurz or Sauv. Blanc with late Nelson Sauvin additions.

Yeah, Nelson was my thought, too. It's definitely on the to do list.

Nelson + muscat = perfect match! Do it!

[pete b]

I don't have any Nelson Sauvin but maybe I can get some in time to dry hop. I'm making the saison tomorrow and will be on retreat from wednesday Jan 7 to Jan 14 so maybe after then I'll rack onto the grapes and some N.S. Dry hops that I'll order. I have some cultivated white wine grapes I grew that I'll mix with the wild ones to cut the tartness. I think I'll put the elderberries in a ESB. " Your father smelled of Elderberries..."

[Stevie]

YVH just got some nelson in stock.

[pete b]

I think I'll go grape in secondary. I usually add a bit of sugar to saisons to accentuate dryness but I'm thinking with the grapes I'll skip that. I might add 15% rye malt and the rest belgian pils. I'm using belle saison yeast.

[homoeccentricus]

Not really saison, but still, very dry beer: Cantillon makes two types of fruit lambic with grapes: Vigneronne,  with Italian white grapes (I think very sweet muscat), and Saint Lamvinus, with  (red) merlot and cabernet-franc from the Burgundy region.

In both cases instead of sugar a sweet liqueur is added to carbonate.

[HoosierBrew]

I've had some Cantillon beers, but not those. They sound great.

[pete b]

They do sound good. I ordered some Nelson sauvin. I'm going to rack onto our wild grapes and the ns hops after primary. Ended up with a grist of Bel pils, aromatic and wheat flakes. 1.064 OG . Buttered w/ tettnang late hops were ekg.

[pete b]

Auto correct turned bitter into butter.

[pete b]

Now I'm wondering if the grapes even though frozen will bring some wild yeast or other bugs to the party for good or ill.