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Immersion Chiller Solder
« on: January 09, 2015, 06:44:33 PM »
Just received my shiny new immersion chiller and I'm wondering if this is normal for all IC's. There is a ton of solder on the chiller, seen this on other chillers? The website mentions "silver based lead free solder used", but I'm just getting the groups opinion. Pictures below...





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Re: Immersion Chiller Solder
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2015, 06:48:49 PM »
It is fine. Not the cleanest of jobs, but soldering two tubes together like that is very hard due to the lack of contact.

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Re: Immersion Chiller Solder
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2015, 07:41:23 PM »
Did you buy it new? From whom?

Its not okay from a consumer standpoint. You paid for a cleanly-made IC and received a hack job. I'm assuming the website didn't show an IC with solder everywhere, and if that's the case, ask for a replacement.

From an operational stand point, lots of solder is tough to clean. I made my own hack job lautering manifold for my first mash cooler. Lots of solder - lots of scrubbing.
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Re: Immersion Chiller Solder
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2015, 07:54:20 PM »
I have not had good luck with equipment this past week! It's from Jaded Brewing...I think another person is getting the same IC on the forum here.

I'm going to send 'er back, at this point, Fedex and UPS know me by name.

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Re: Immersion Chiller Solder
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2015, 07:57:39 PM »
I disagree that it is a hack job. Until you have tried to join two tube crossing like that, you have no idea. They could have made it cleaner by wrapping in copper wire and sealing the wire or slightly flattening the tube where the join.

 I wouldn't think anything of it if were me, but I also never really clean my chiller. A quick dip in bucket followed by a rinse with the hose sprayer.
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Re: Immersion Chiller Solder
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2015, 08:18:27 PM »
+1 to what Steve said. I dip mine is a kettle with Oxyclean filled with first runnings off the chiller, rinse the chunks off, and done.

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Re: Immersion Chiller Solder
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2015, 08:48:24 PM »
When I first started brewing I had one of these.  It was not a cleaning nightmare.  I actually got a lead testing kit to make sure what they said was true - it was (free of lead).  I don't think I'd return it if it were me.
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Re: Immersion Chiller Solder
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2015, 08:51:42 PM »
+1 to what Steve said. I dip mine is a kettle with Oxyclean filled with first runnings off the chiller, rinse the chunks off, and done.

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Re: Immersion Chiller Solder
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2015, 09:01:40 PM »
My first thought was "wow! those joints are pretty clean for the type they are".  As others have said that type of soldering is very difficult and requires a lot of heat with good control (a real torch with oxygen not a cheapo-stick-a-rose-bud-on-the-end-of-a-propane-bottle torch).

I wouldn't send it back but that's just me.  My IC gets cleaned maybe twice a year, maybe.  I'll soak it in the the pbw blanket for 10 minutes when it starts looking bad.  For the most part I rinse it with warm water immediately after use and hang it to dry.  I've never scrubbed it off.

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Re: Immersion Chiller Solder
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2015, 10:48:22 PM »
Good points by everyone. I don't understand why they need to use solder at all? Why not just let the cooper do what it wants, if it moves a bit who cares?

I may get this one, I know there is a SS vs. copper debate raging but More Beer said it's only soldered up high closer to the vinyl tubing. In this example, I imagine the coils may dangle a bit.

http://morebeer.com/products/stainless-steel-wort-chiller-25-38-tubing.html

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Re: Immersion Chiller Solder
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2015, 11:59:39 PM »
If you are thinking about getting a stainless steel immersion chiller, check out the "silver serpent" over at Northern Brewer.
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Re: Immersion Chiller Solder
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2015, 12:33:08 AM »
My first thought was "wow! those joints are pretty clean for the type they are".  As others have said that type of soldering is very difficult and requires a lot of heat with good control (a real torch with oxygen not a cheapo-stick-a-rose-bud-on-the-end-of-a-propane-bottle torch).

I wouldn't send it back but that's just me.  My IC gets cleaned maybe twice a year, maybe.  I'll soak it in the the pbw blanket for 10 minutes when it starts looking bad.  For the most part I rinse it with warm water immediately after use and hang it to dry.  I've never scrubbed it off.

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Re: Immersion Chiller Solder
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2015, 06:06:03 PM »

If you are thinking about getting a stainless steel immersion chiller, check out the "silver serpent" over at Northern Brewer.
I just watched their youtube video for it the other day. Looks pretty nice.

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Re: Immersion Chiller Solder
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2015, 08:32:16 PM »
Copper has better heat conductivity and is good for prefermentation beer. Why go stainless? Is it cheaper?

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Re: Immersion Chiller Solder
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2015, 08:41:05 PM »
Copper has better heat conductivity and is good for prefermentation beer. Why go stainless? Is it cheaper?

Copper is good to drive off sulfur,too.
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