[Rattlesnake44]

Hey guys, new here. Been reading and lurking for a while, thought I'd go ahead and sign up and throw in my two cents every now and then.
A quick look at my brew day yesterday, I did an all grain clone of Stone Levitation ale.  I got the recipe from the Jamil show "Can You Brew It".

[Wort-H.O.G.]

welcome! looks like a great day.

[HoosierBrew]

Welcome !  Lots of good people and great info here.

[archstanton]

 I was just reading something about Levitation, looks like you won't have something to compare to for long. They recently changed ruination and now will change the ipa too.
http://beeralien.com/stone-dropping-sublimely-levitation/

[HoosierBrew]

I hate hearing that about SSR. That's a good beer.

[Rattlesnake44]

Oh no! That's a great session beer.  Well, even better that I have the recipe and can reproduce a decent tasting copy. Now if I could just get a close clone of Pliny...

[HoosierBrew]

Now if I could just get a close clone of Pliny...

With all the Pliny recipes out there, this one is surprisingly close. I've been to RR and this definitely reminds me of what I had :  http://www.bertusbrewery.com/2013/08/pliny-elder-clone-30.html

Having said that, I think a West Coast IIPA is as much about technique ( mash low, small amount of crystal, using sugar) as the exact recipe. Try it !

[archstanton]

Now if I could just get a close clone of Pliny...

With all the Pliny recipes out there, this one is surprisingly close. I've been to RR and this definitely reminds me of what I had :  http://www.bertusbrewery.com/2013/08/pliny-elder-clone-30.html

Having said that, I think a West Coast IIPA is as much about technique ( mash low, small amount of crystal, using sugar) as the exact recipe. Try it !

Considering it is nearly identical to the recipe given by Vinnie himself I  would hope it comes close.
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/attachments/0000/6351/doubleIPA.pdf

Agree that technique plays a big roll, as well as what that person did in conforming it to his system.

[HoosierBrew]

Now if I could just get a close clone of Pliny...

With all the Pliny recipes out there, this one is surprisingly close. I've been to RR and this definitely reminds me of what I had :  http://www.bertusbrewery.com/2013/08/pliny-elder-clone-30.html

Having said that, I think a West Coast IIPA is as much about technique ( mash low, small amount of crystal, using sugar) as the exact recipe. Try it !

Considering it is nearly identical to the recipe given by Vinnie himself I  would hope it comes close.
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/attachments/0000/6351/doubleIPA.pdf

Agree that technique plays a big roll, as well as what that person did in conforming it to his system.

Yeah, a great recipe, no arguments - I've brewed it numerous times.  I brewed the Bertus to try out the hopshot in the place of the 4+ oz of bittering hops (less hop matter) in the 2009 Vinnie recipe.  Actually, RR supposedly uses hop oils for just this reason. Pretty sure either one will make a great beer.

EDIT -  I don't remember hopshot being available to homebrewers in 2009 (could be wrong). I always assumed if it were, he'd have put it in the recipe.

[archstanton]

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Yes, clearly a great recipe, no arguments - I've brewed it numerous times.  I brewed the Bertus to try out the hopshot in the place of the 4+ oz of bittering hops (less hop matter) in the 2009 Vinnie recipe.  Actually, RR supposedly uses hop oils for just this reason. Pretty sure either one will make a great beer.

EDIT -  I don't remember hopshot being available to homebrewers in 2009 (could be wrong). I always assumed if it were, he'd have put it in the recipe.
[/quote]

How did you like the hopshot one? Columbus is my favorite hop so I have been reluctant to sub it out and at my scale, I can afford the grain. I start with 8 gallons preboil to try and get 5 drinkable gallons. I have heard Vinnnie mention using the hop extract and believe it is a staple for him now as well.

I mainly brew one I call Pliny the Wiser now , a 6%er.

[HoosierBrew]

 

 
Yes, clearly a great recipe, no arguments - I've brewed it numerous times.  I brewed the Bertus to try out the hopshot in the place of the 4+ oz of bittering hops (less hop matter) in the 2009 Vinnie recipe.  Actually, RR supposedly uses hop oils for just this reason. Pretty sure either one will make a great beer.

EDIT -  I don't remember hopshot being available to homebrewers in 2009 (could be wrong). I always assumed if it were, he'd have put it in the recipe.
[/quote]

How did you like the hopshot one? Columbus is my favorite hop so I have been reluctant to sub it out and at my scale, I can afford the grain. I start with 8 gallons preboil to try and get 5 drinkable gallons. I have heard Vinnnie mention using the hop extract and believe it is a staple for him now as well.

I mainly brew one I call Pliny the Wiser now , a 6%er.
[/quote]

Yeah, pretty spot on bitterness level to the actual. The bitterness might or might not be as coarse as the good ole' Columbus bitterness (which I love in IPA) - can't decide.  I'd kicked around the idea of using an oz of CTZ with a little less of the hopshot, but I don't know if I'll bother. Both are great. I'm always more liable to debate upping the dry hops an oz or two.

[Rattlesnake44]

Thanks for the link. I'll give it a try here in the next couple months.