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Offline Steve Ruch

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lower cost bock
« on: January 29, 2015, 10:36:27 PM »
Next on my schedule is a maibock. In an effort to save money I was thinking of getting Briess 2-row and Briess munich instead German pilsner and German munich.
I already have German tettnang and German yeast.
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Re: lower cost bock
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2015, 10:39:54 PM »
Next on my schedule is a maibock. In an effort to save money I was thinking of getting Briess 2-row and Briess munich instead German pilsner and German munich.
I already have German tettnang and German yeast.
Okay? Not okay?

you can make beer with anything....its all about personal preference.

some like breiss. I really like avangard or weyermann.
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Re: lower cost bock
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2015, 10:54:11 PM »
it won't do as well in competition if you don't use continental ingredients. That said, it'll be fine.

I am a strong believer in using the most local ingredients possible however, I must grudgingly admit that when it comes to german lagers, german malts make a huge difference.

My marzen recipe is pils and 10L munich. it's very tasty when I use great western or gambrinus malts but it's a whole different animal when I use weyermann. it's really astonishing the difference it makes.
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Re: lower cost bock
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2015, 11:33:51 PM »
1) How much are you really going to save with these cheaper ingredients?

2) Is that difference really worth all the work to make what could be a sub par product?
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Re: lower cost bock
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2015, 12:30:52 AM »
1) How much are you really going to save with these cheaper ingredients?

2) Is that difference really worth all the work to make what could be a sub par product?
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Re: lower cost bock
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2015, 12:43:01 AM »
1) How much are you really going to save with these cheaper ingredients?

2) Is that difference really worth all the work to make what could be a sub par product?

You stated what I was thinking.
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Re: lower cost bock
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2015, 12:44:59 AM »
Steve- I know it's coming across harsh about some obvious personal preferences we have. Truth be told, you can make good beer as planned. Personal experience- it can be better with  some of the mentioned malts.




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Re: lower cost bock
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2015, 01:23:38 AM »
Obviously you can brew whatever you like, but maibock is a style that's dominated by the malt character. I don't think you could make a decent example *of the style* without authentic base malts.

We're talking about saving what, maybe $10 for a 5 gal batch? That wouldn't even buy a sixer of a good German example if this doesn't come out like what you want.
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Re: lower cost bock
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2015, 01:42:43 AM »
Obviously you can brew whatever you like, but maibock is a style that's dominated by the malt character. I don't think you could make a decent example *of the style* without authentic base malts.

We're talking about saving what, maybe $10 for a 5 gal batch? That wouldn't even buy a sixer of a good German example if this doesn't come out like what you want.
Sean, I think that's a great way of seeing it!
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Re: lower cost bock
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2015, 02:39:03 AM »
1) How much are you really going to save with these cheaper ingredients?

2) Is that difference really worth all the work to make what could be a sub par product?
I've noticed that those who homebrew because they love good beer keep at it and those who homebrew to save money realize quickly that they went down the wrong path.
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Re: lower cost bock
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2015, 02:46:18 AM »
1) How much are you really going to save with these cheaper ingredients?

2) Is that difference really worth all the work to make what could be a sub par product?

+1- not sure what you are really trying to save. A couple bucks? You'll still make a fine beer, but hard to beat the German malts fir a German style lager.

My go to malt for these styles is Best. I do not like best Munich. And the imported malts make all the difference nice.

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Re: lower cost bock
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2015, 03:21:23 AM »
1) How much are you really going to save with these cheaper ingredients?

2) Is that difference really worth all the work to make what could be a sub par product?

+1- not sure what you are really trying to save. A couple bucks? You'll still make a fine beer, but hard to beat the German malts fir a German style lager.

My go to malt for these styles is Best. I do not like best Munich. And the imported malts make all the difference nice.
Did you mean Briess Munich, not Best?
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Re: lower cost bock
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2015, 12:11:40 PM »
1) How much are you really going to save with these cheaper ingredients?

2) Is that difference really worth all the work to make what could be a sub par product?

+1- not sure what you are really trying to save. A couple bucks? You'll still make a fine beer, but hard to beat the German malts fir a German style lager.

My go to malt for these styles is Best. I do not like best Munich. And the imported malts make all the difference nice.
Did you mean Briess Munich, not Best?

Yes! Thanks. Not a huge fan of the Briess Munich. Not a bad malt, just doesn't taste like Munich.

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Re: lower cost bock
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2015, 02:11:42 PM »
I am a penny pincher when it comes to brewing which can cause its issues. I mainly avoid certain styles that I may be too cheap to do properly like American IPA. Maybe I have gone down the wrong path...

It seems that my LHBS overcharges considerably for a lot of british, continental, and other specialty malts. If you are trying to brew very traditional styles then I say go with the others advise. For the most part, my beers are a take on traditional styels and I have had great luck primarily using Canada Malting Pilsner and Great Western Munich base malts for most of my beers.
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Re: lower cost bock
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2015, 02:18:09 PM »
1) How much are you really going to save with these cheaper ingredients?

2) Is that difference really worth all the work to make what could be a sub par product?
I've noticed that those who homebrew because they love good beer keep at it and those who homebrew to save money realize quickly that they went down the wrong path.
Probably because they start thinking "I'm going to build my own Honda" and in the end they've bought the parts for a Mercedes.
 
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