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Ipa water addition help
« on: February 15, 2015, 04:04:27 PM »
Alright my buddy is going down to our local brew store,  I'm having him pick me up some salts and was wondering if you guys could help me with what to get,  I'm brewing a heady topper clone from farmhouse brewing,   I was thinking about the burton on Trent water pack with everything already mixed together?  But I'll be using deer park bottled water for this one so was thinking maybe gypsum and some others tho too any guidance would be awesomr I was this beer to be smacking me in the face with hops

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Re: Ipa water addition help
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2015, 04:37:08 PM »
I use Bru'nwater to predict pH and to figure salt additions- the Pale Ale profile there is excellent. So I would download it and it will tell you the salts to use for IPA.
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Re: Ipa water addition help
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2015, 04:37:25 PM »
Deer park water
Calcium-3.8
Magnesium-1.2
Sodium2.8
Sulfate-6.0
Chloride-.5
Bicarbonate-32.90

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Re: Ipa water addition help
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2015, 04:41:59 PM »
Deer park water
Calcium-3.8
Magnesium-1.2
Sodium2.8
Sulfate-6.0
Chloride-.5
Bicarbonate-32.90

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Nice water. I had a sip of Heady at a club meeting. I don't remember it being to minerally or having a lingering bitterness. A Burton profile may not be what they use. Anyone else know?
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Re: Ipa water addition help
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2015, 05:46:57 PM »
Alright did alittle playing in ezcalc,  my ph is alittle high at 5.6 but was thinking if I add some ph stabilizer could draw me down to the 5.2-5.4 range

Additions
Mash:
2.5g gypsum
3.75G calc. Chloride
2g epson salt
Sparge:
2.6 gypsum
4 calc. Chloride
2.1 Epsom

Water after:
Ca-92
Mg-11
Na-3
Cl-100
SO4-126

Chloride/sulfate ratio .80

Tht look good or what else should I adjust for the high pb

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Re: Ipa water addition help
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2015, 05:48:09 PM »
Ph,  from what I have found searching on the clone of heady the alchemist mashes at 5.4 so I'm 2 points high but would adding stabilizer help with that?

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Re: Ipa water addition help
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2015, 06:02:08 PM »
Ph,  from what I have found searching on the clone of heady the alchemist mashes at 5.4 so I'm 2 points high but would adding stabilizer help with that?
You're much better off using something like lactic acid or phosphoric acid. There's no way of telling what the stabilizer is adding to your mash, what pH it's going to hit, and what the flavor impact is going to be.
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Ipa water addition help
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2015, 06:15:50 PM »
Should my LHBS sell lactic acid or phosphoric?

Edit:  Nevermind checked there site they got it
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Re: Ipa water addition help
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2015, 08:12:16 PM »
Should my LHBS sell lactic acid or phosphoric?

Edit:  Nevermind checked there site they got it

for sure. lactic is almost always available. I like to mash in and see where PH lands, then add the lactic acid with about quart of mash water held back, and stir it all in.
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Re: Ipa water addition help
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2015, 09:56:05 PM »
Deer park water
Calcium-3.8
Magnesium-1.2
Sodium2.8
Sulfate-6.0
Chloride-.5
Bicarbonate-32.90

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Just to clarify, is Deer Park your town or are we talking about the bottled water brand Deer Park?

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Re: Ipa water addition help
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2015, 10:33:32 PM »
Bottled deer park, beer smith has the breakdown in the software of what it's ppm are

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Re: Ipa water addition help
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2015, 10:36:08 PM »
Still need to get a water filter to use my local tap water and being its a 60 dollar brew I like to know my water is good lol

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Re: Ipa water addition help
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2015, 10:49:34 PM »
my buddy has brewed this clone 3 or 4 times and has nailed it (did a side by side). He pushes his So4 to 200ppm and Cl to 40ppm uses 100%RO. Doesnt taste minerally at all also he use Vermont IPA yeast GYo54 from Gigayeast.

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Re: Ipa water addition help
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2015, 10:57:47 PM »
I got omegas dipa conan strain,  will have to try giga on the next run and compare the two

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Re: Ipa water addition help
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2015, 10:59:56 PM »
Wonder what those contents would be like in the bottled deer park I will be using