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Aquarium Heaters for Temp Control
« on: February 18, 2015, 01:26:16 pm »
Anyone use one?  I have a saison going and I'd like to raise the temp as it ferments.

My thought was to put it in a tub of water with an aquarium heater.

I tried this before with a small heater that did nothing, so I'm looking for recommendations on one that would work.

I'm not looking to put the fermenter in a box or fridge with a brew belt, heating pad, or light bulb.
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Re: Aquarium Heaters for Temp Control
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2015, 01:31:36 pm »
I have one that I never use as I replaced it with a reptile heater. I used it with a tub that was about the same height as my wort level and had about 2" of space on the sides. I got it up to 90. It's 50w stick heater. I coupled it with a temp controller and thermowell.

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Re: Aquarium Heaters for Temp Control
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2015, 01:39:20 pm »
Mine is more like the one linked below, but I'm sure any would do the trick.


http://www.amazon.com/EHEIM-Jager-Aquarium-Thermostat-Heater/dp/B003U82YEY/ref=sr_1_2?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1424291756&sr=1-2&keywords=aquarium+heater


I imagine the ambient temp plays a very large role in the ability for these to work well. Mine was in the house where the ambient was 68-72

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Re: Aquarium Heaters for Temp Control
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2015, 01:41:30 pm »
My basement is maybe 60 right now.  Maybe.  And dropping, what with the current freeze.

I might just bring the fermenters upstairs for a week.
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Re: Aquarium Heaters for Temp Control
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2015, 01:47:43 pm »
Anyone use one?  I have a saison going and I'd like to raise the temp as it ferments.

My thought was to put it in a tub of water with an aquarium heater.

I tried this before with a small heater that did nothing, so I'm looking for recommendations on one that would work.

I'm not looking to put the fermenter in a box or fridge with a brew belt, heating pad, or light bulb.

Yeah, I did it for years before I got a freezer.  IIRC, it was either a 60 or 100 W heater.  I'll check the next time I head out to the brewery.  Worked really well, although it does take some monitoring.  Another thing that helped me was to put the heater on a timer so it only came on at the coldest times of day.  That will depend on your local weather, though.
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Re: Aquarium Heaters for Temp Control
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2015, 02:01:45 pm »
Another thing that helped me was to put the heater on a timer so it only came on at the coldest times of day.  That will depend on your local weather, though.

9F and dropping.

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Re: Aquarium Heaters for Temp Control
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2015, 02:47:44 pm »
I use an Igloo cooler water bath with a heavy duty aquarium heater. Works like a charm. Last weekend, when the temps were single digits, I was fermenting at 70F in my unheated garage.
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Re: Aquarium Heaters for Temp Control
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2015, 03:41:20 pm »
The one time I used one was when I fermented 3724 @ 90F for the first time, after realizing my fermwrap was toast. I wish I could find the heater - don't remember the wattage, but it was a heavy duty.  It was summer and I put the fermenter in a plastic tote of 90F water, in an upstairs room with the AC vents shut - so the room temp was pretty steady ~ 80F. I put a sleeping bag over the top of the tote with the bucket to insulate. And it worked really well with that setup. I checked temps a couple times a day and it stayed between 90-93F. I didn't ramp given these temps, but the 3724 finished @ 1.002 in 12 days.
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Re: Aquarium Heaters for Temp Control
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2015, 10:15:25 am »
Mine is more like the one linked below, but I'm sure any would do the trick.


http://www.amazon.com/EHEIM-Jager-Aquarium-Thermostat-Heater/dp/B003U82YEY/ref=sr_1_2?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1424291756&sr=1-2&keywords=aquarium+heater


I imagine the ambient temp plays a very large role in the ability for these to work well. Mine was in the house where the ambient was 68-72

Ordered one of these last night.  I did a test fit in a tub with an empty fermenter and I think it will work.

My saison is going along in the low 60s, but I want to push it higher to finish.

If it works out, I may give 3724 a try again.  I gave up on that yeast a few years back.
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Re: Aquarium Heaters for Temp Control
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2015, 03:19:05 pm »
What sort of tub are you all using to hold the warm water bath?

I've got my better bottle in a metal wash tub (like you would put a keg in) with warm water and my new aquarium heater.

I have a smaller plastic tub that would work, too.  It's deeper and holds less water, but I'm concerned because the heating element would be approximately 1/4 inch from the side of the BB.
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Re: Aquarium Heaters for Temp Control
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2015, 03:26:56 pm »
I used a deep plastic Rubbermaid type tub the time I did it. Bucket on one end, the heater on the other end. Worked pretty well.
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Re: Aquarium Heaters for Temp Control
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2015, 05:53:07 pm »

I used a deep plastic Rubbermaid type tub the time I did it. Bucket on one end, the heater on the other end. Worked pretty well.
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Re: Aquarium Heaters for Temp Control
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2015, 07:20:35 pm »
I have an Igloo Ice Cube. I cut a hole in the top and a carboy fits nicely. I use it with a 50w aquarium heater to warm things up and frozen water bottles to cool things down.
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Re: Aquarium Heaters for Temp Control
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2015, 10:46:04 am »
This thing has my saison 14 degrees above ambient and 10 above it's previous high.   It may still be climbing, too.

Very nice.  Thanks for the recommendation.
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