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Re: mandarina
« Reply #90 on: October 05, 2015, 10:33:26 am »
MB has less oils than Mosaic, Simcoe, Citra and so on. IIRC it has about 1% or less, those others have 2 to 3 % oil. If you want an aroma punch like those hops give, you need to double or triple.

That really seems to be the rule for all the fruitier European hop varieties whether they are the new German varieties or the fruity styrian variants. Great flavor and aroma but if you want them to compete with big American or NZ/AUS hops then you need a generous hand.
Yep, Hallertau Blanc belongs on that list as well.

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Re: mandarina
« Reply #91 on: October 05, 2015, 11:29:35 am »
MB has less oils than Mosaic, Simcoe, Citra and so on. IIRC it has about 1% or less, those others have 2 to 3 % oil. If you want an aroma punch like those hops give, you need to double or triple.

That really seems to be the rule for all the fruitier European hop varieties whether they are the new German varieties or the fruity styrian variants. Great flavor and aroma but if you want them to compete with big American or NZ/AUS hops then you need a generous hand.
Yep, Hallertau Blanc belongs on that list as well.
Along with Huell Melon. Now Polaris, not so much, high AA and 4-5% oils. The oils can be minty/menthol like, so it is a polarizing hop (see what I did there).
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Re: mandarina
« Reply #92 on: October 05, 2015, 11:35:24 am »
MB has less oils than Mosaic, Simcoe, Citra and so on. IIRC it has about 1% or less, those others have 2 to 3 % oil. If you want an aroma punch like those hops give, you need to double or triple.

That really seems to be the rule for all the fruitier European hop varieties whether they are the new German varieties or the fruity styrian variants. Great flavor and aroma but if you want them to compete with big American or NZ/AUS hops then you need a generous hand.
Yep, Hallertau Blanc belongs on that list as well.
Along with Huell Melon. Now Polaris, not so much, high AA and 4-5% oils. The oils can be minty/menthol like, so it is a polarizing hop (see what I did there).

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Re: mandarina
« Reply #93 on: October 05, 2015, 11:42:52 am »
Next up (or soon) im going to brew an all vienna and mandarina lager with wlp830-using my northern German pils water profile and hop schedule so around 40IBU and 90-100 sulfate.
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Re: mandarina
« Reply #94 on: February 08, 2016, 01:57:38 pm »
man im getting a whole new taste out of this latest vienna and all mandarin hopped IPA. i hit it with 8oz in boil thru hop stand, and then another 4oz dry hop. I'm really picking up mellon...cantelope and pineapple. not as strong tangerine as I've experienced before.

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Re: mandarina
« Reply #95 on: February 08, 2016, 02:08:11 pm »
I really gotta try some of these newer hops besides Citra.

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Re: mandarina
« Reply #96 on: February 08, 2016, 03:22:59 pm »
man im getting a whole new taste out of this latest vienna and all mandarin hopped IPA. i hit it with 8oz in boil thru hop stand, and then another 4oz dry hop. I'm really picking up mellon...cantelope and pineapple. not as strong tangerine as I've experienced before.

nothing better than a fresh IPA!



No doubt !  It's cool how you can pick up different character from hops depending on how (and how much) you use them. Nothing beats that first pint of a new IPA when the hops are uber fresh and pungent. I'm tapping one this Friday. Can't wait !
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Re: mandarina
« Reply #97 on: February 08, 2016, 03:35:42 pm »
man im getting a whole new taste out of this latest vienna and all mandarin hopped IPA. i hit it with 8oz in boil thru hop stand, and then another 4oz dry hop. I'm really picking up mellon...cantelope and pineapple. not as strong tangerine as I've experienced before.

nothing better than a fresh IPA!

What size batch are you brewing? That's a lot of hops!
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Re: mandarina
« Reply #98 on: February 08, 2016, 03:36:22 pm »
man im getting a whole new taste out of this latest vienna and all mandarin hopped IPA. i hit it with 8oz in boil thru hop stand, and then another 4oz dry hop. I'm really picking up mellon...cantelope and pineapple. not as strong tangerine as I've experienced before.

nothing better than a fresh IPA!

What size batch are you brewing? That's a lot of hops!

5gal...perfect!  8)
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Re: mandarina
« Reply #99 on: February 08, 2016, 03:55:40 pm »
What size batch are you brewing? That's a lot of hops!

5gal...perfect!  8)


I get that a lot too, Ken.     8)
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Re: mandarina
« Reply #100 on: February 08, 2016, 03:56:50 pm »
Yeah it's really about how and when you deploy the hops as it relates to qty.


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Re: mandarina
« Reply #101 on: February 08, 2016, 03:59:54 pm »
Yeah it's really about how and when you deploy the hops as it relates to qty.


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Totally. I've given guys hop schedules many times based on what they were shooting for. At first they think it looks like a lot - afterward, at least half the time they think it could've used a little more. Go figure.
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Re: mandarina
« Reply #102 on: February 08, 2016, 04:03:29 pm »
Right. I've become a later the better hop guy...smoother more flavor and aroma carries thru.


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Re: mandarina
« Reply #103 on: February 08, 2016, 04:08:16 pm »
Right. I've become a later the better hop guy...smoother more flavor and aroma carries thru.


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Same here. I don't need the bitterness to melt my face. Love the flavor and aroma.
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Re: mandarina
« Reply #104 on: February 08, 2016, 05:20:52 pm »
I guess I'm just going to have to try a 1/4 to 1/2 lb hop stand sometime then, I'm curious about the results.
Corn is a fine adjunct in beer.

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