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Offline Stevie

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Re: Two Hearted Clone
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2015, 08:07:16 am »
Northern Brewer has a spot on clone on their site. You can download the recipe and use it without buying their kit too. I think it's called Dead Ringer
With that name I would think it is a clone of Dead Guy Ale. False cognitive.

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Re: Two Hearted Clone
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2015, 08:07:43 am »
A few things to tweak.  I definitely wouldn't use almost 10% crystal in an extract IPA. I'd cut it back to 7% , and would sub out a lb of Vienna for a lb of sugar. Extract beers tend to not be as fermentable as all grain beers, so the sugar will help offset this and give you a drier, less sweet finish. Also, I would add 2 oz of Centennial at 10, 5, and 0 minutes, to get IPA level flavor.  Next, consider adding a tsp of gypsum to the boil, to bring out the hop character. One more thing -  I would also bump the dry hops up to a more IPA-ish 3+ oz for 7 days. Not trying to be overly critical - this will just be a lot more like Two Hearted. Good luck !

You're not being over critical at all. I really appreciate the feed back. Like I said, I wanna learn how to create my own recipes and advice like this really helps! I have a few follow up questions:

1) Can I just use cane sugar, or is there another you would recommend? Also, do I just put the sugar in the grain sac when I'm steeping, or do I throw it in with the extract during boil?
2) Would the 2 oz of hops at 10, 5 and 0 be in addition to the 20 minute?
3) When do I add the gypsum? I've never used salts before.

Thanks again for the help!

1/  Cane is fine, in the boil.

2/  Yep, in addition.  Your recipe initially would've been fine for a pale ale, now looks more like an IPA.

3/ Add the gypsum in the boil.

Cool! With your changes, I now have this:

OG: 1.075
FG: 1.019
ABV: 7.3%
IBU: 88

I feel like that IBU rating might be a little high. If I take out the 5 minute addition it goes down to 75, which is more where I'd like it.

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Re: Two Hearted Clone
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2015, 08:09:34 am »
Feel free to bump it. At the end of the day, you're the one drinking it.  Let us know what you think !
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Re: Two Hearted Clone
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2015, 08:10:06 am »
Hey guys,

I'm working on my third brew this weekend. So far I've made an ESB and stout, but now I'm gonna make my favorite variety, IPA. My girlfriend's all time favorite is Bell's Two Hearted Ale. I told her I'd like to make a clone so we can have 5 times as much for a fifth of the price. I like doing partial mashes, and with the research I've done, this is the recipe I've come up with:

Recipe Type: Partial-mash
Yeast: Wyeast American Ale II 1272
Batch Size (Gallons): 5
Boil Size (Gallons): 6
Original Gravity: 1.072
Final Gravity: 1.019
IBU: 68
Boiling Time (Minutes): 60
Color: 9.82
Primary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp): at least 4 weeks at 68 F

5.5 lbs DME Light 52.4%
4 lbs American Vienna 38.1%
1 lb American Caramel/Crystal 40L 9.5%

1.00 oz Centennial Pellet [9.50 %] (60 min)
1.00 oz Centennial Pellet [9.50 %] (20 min)
1.00 oz Centennial Pellet [9.50 %] (10 min) 
1/2 tsp Irish Moss (10 min)
1/2 tsp Wyeast Yeast Nutrient (10 min)
1.00 oz Centennial Pellet [9.50 %] (FO)
1.00 oz Centennial Whole Leaf [9.50 %] (10 day)

7% ABV

How does this look? Please be honest, I want to make a good beer! This is the first time I've created my own recipe (first two were kits), so any tips on creating a recipe would be great! I'd like to eventually get into all-grain, but as of now I'm limited to partial-mash because of my apartment size. I figured this IPA recipe would be a good one to "make" myself because of it's limited ingredients.

How does my mash line up look? Also, how long should I steep my mash? And at what mash temperature?

It doesn't have to be an exact clone, I just want a tasty IPA that tastes similar to Two Hearted!

Thanks in advance!!


A few things to tweak.  I definitely wouldn't use almost 10% crystal in an extract IPA. I'd cut it back to 7% , and would sub out a lb of Vienna for a lb of sugar. Extract beers tend to not be as fermentable as all grain beers, so the sugar will help offset this and give you a drier, less sweet finish. Also, I would add 2 oz of Centennial at 10, 5, and 0 minutes, to get IPA level flavor.  Next, consider adding a tsp of gypsum to the boil, to bring out the hop character. One more thing -  I would also bump the dry hops up to a more IPA-ish 3+ oz for 7 days. Not trying to be overly critical - this will just be a lot more like Two Hearted. Good luck !

I'm counting 13 ounces of centennial for 5 gallons. Is that correct?
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Re: Two Hearted Clone
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2015, 08:12:08 am »
Based on 3 oz dry hops, I get 11. I recommended :

60 - 1
20- 1
10 - 2
5- 2
0 - 2

Dry - 3


EDIT - Not out of line with AIPA at all.  I use more.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2015, 08:18:24 am by HoosierBrew »
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Re: Two Hearted Clone
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2015, 08:13:14 am »

Northern Brewer has a spot on clone on their site. You can download the recipe and use it without buying their kit too. I think it's called Dead Ringer
With that name I would think it is a clone of Dead Guy Ale. False cognitive.

It used to be called Three Hearted but Bell's sent a cease and desist letter. Named was changed to reflect that it's a "dead ringer" of the commercial product.


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Re: Two Hearted Clone
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2015, 08:19:08 am »
I've made a batch of NB's Dead Ringer. About a week after I killed that keg I was able to try Bell's Two Hearted Ale. The NB all-grain kit is dead on, I'd imagine their extract kit would be as well.
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Re: Two Hearted Clone
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2015, 08:39:22 am »
Northern Brewer has a spot on clone on their site. You can download the recipe and use it without buying their kit too. I think it's called Dead Ringer


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Yes, I've brewed the NB kit many times. It's excellent.

I saw that, and what I put together took some inspiration from that. I read that Bell's uses Vienna though, and that's why I wanted to incorporate that into this brew.

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Re: Two Hearted Clone
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2015, 08:40:49 am »
Based on 3 oz dry hops, I get 11. I recommended :

60 - 1
20- 1
10 - 2
5- 2
0 - 2

Dry - 3


EDIT - Not out of line with AIPA at all.  I use more.
I am shocked. This poor Belgian has been doing it all wrong up to now  :o
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Re: Two Hearted Clone
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2015, 08:42:58 am »
Based on 3 oz dry hops, I get 11. I recommended :

60 - 1
20- 1
10 - 2
5- 2
0 - 2

Dry - 3


EDIT - Not out of line with AIPA at all.  I use more.
I am shocked. This poor Belgian has been doing it all wrong up to now  :o

Obviously English IPA would use a fair amount less. All about personal taste, though.
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Re: Two Hearted Clone
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2015, 08:44:46 am »
Does anyone know what the IBU of the actually THA is? It's not listed on their website, and I can't find it anywhere else.

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Re: Two Hearted Clone
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2015, 08:51:13 am »
cf the official clone I posted before: http://imgur.com/r/Homebrewing/bfITU9X - 55 IBU.
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Re: Two Hearted Clone
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2015, 09:33:58 am »
Also, does anyone have any suggestions for my mash time and temperature? Thanks!

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Re: Two Hearted Clone
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2015, 09:35:15 am »
Also, does anyone have any suggestions for my mash time and temperature? Thanks!


I'd go 60 min at 149-150.

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Re: Two Hearted Clone
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2015, 09:36:25 am »
Also, does anyone have any suggestions for my mash time and temperature? Thanks!


I'd go 60 min at 149-150.

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