[klickitat jim]

A lager style should be classified by one thing: brewed with lager yeast.

Unless the beer is in texas. If its over 5% and in texas, its an ale.

That law was changed a year or 2 ago.

Disregard. And good for Texas!

[Thirsty_Monk]

I think that debate ale vs lager is about nothing. Who cares. Make a good beer.

The same yeast will behave different in different fermenters (open and shallow vs tall and closed) as well as different temperature and pitching rate.

Learn your yeast well and use it to your advantage.

So if you ferment your Boston Lager with ale yeast clean and you like it, good for you. If you want to let it sit on yeast in fridge for another two weeks, go for it. Just make good beer and be happy.

Just my 2 cents to it.

[Jimmy K]

Instead of getting philosophical, how about a link to the recipe? I can't find it.

[Wort-H.O.G.]

Instead of getting philosophical, how about a link to the recipe? I can't find it.

couldn't get link but here's what it has..just some guy who saved it to the cloud:



Sam Adams Boston Lager

American Amber Ale (10 B)



Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 6.75 gal
Boil Time: 75 min
End of Boil Vol: 5.50 gal
Final Bottling Vol: 4.50 gal
Fermentation: My Aging Profile


Date: 13 Nov 2014
Brewer: Feldpausch Biergarten
Asst Brewer:
Equipment: Our Keg (15 Gal/60 Qt/56 L)
Efficiency: 70.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 73.2 %
Taste Rating: 30.0


8.00 gal Detroit, Michigan 2013 Water 1 -
1.00 tsp Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 2 -
0.50 tsp Muriatic Acid (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 3 -
8 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 4 68.1 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 5 8.5 %
1 lbs Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 6 8.5 %
1 lbs Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 7 8.5 %
12.0 oz Melanoiden Malt (27.0 SRM) Grain 8 6.4 %
2.00 oz Hallertauer [4.10 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 9 29.4 IBUs
1.00 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 10 -
1.00 oz Tettnang [2.40 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 11 3.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Tettnang [2.40 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 0.0 min Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg German Bock Lager (White Labs #WLP833) [35.49 ml] Yeast 13 -


Gravity, Alcohol Content and Color

Est Original Gravity: 1.054 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.014 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.3 %
Bitterness: 33.7 IBUs
Est Color: 11.2 SRM

Measured Original Gravity: 1.054 SG
Measured Final Gravity: 1.014 SG
Actual Alcohol by Vol: 5.3 %
Calories: 180.8 kcal/12oz


Mash Profile

Mash Name: BIAB, Medium Body
Sparge Water: -0.00 gal
Sparge Temperature: 168.1 F
Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE


Total Grain Weight: 11 lbs 12.0 oz
Grain Temperature: 66.0 F
Tun Temperature: 72.0 F
Mash PH: 5.30

Mash Steps


 Name

 Description

 Step Temperature

 Step Time

Stir Add -0.00 qt of water at 152.0 F 152.0 F 15 min
Stir Add -0.00 qt of water at 152.0 F 152.0 F 15 min
Stir Add -0.00 qt of water at 152.0 F 152.0 F 15 min
Saccharification (4.5 gal) Add 18.06 qt of water at 162.3 F 152.1 F 15 min
Mash Out Heat to 168.0 F over 7 min 168.0 F 10 min

Sparge: If steeping, remove grains, and prepare to boil wort
Mash Notes: Brew in a bag method where the full boil volume is mashed within the boil vessel and then the grains are withdrawn at the end of the mash. No active sparging is required. This is a medium body beer profile.



Carbonation and Storage

Carbonation Type: Bottle
Pressure/Weight: 3.53 oz
Keg/Bottling Temperature: 70.0 F
Fermentation: My Aging Profile


Volumes of CO2: 2.3
Carbonation Used: Bottle with 3.53 oz Corn Sugar
Age for: 30.00 days
Storage Temperature: 42.0 F


Notes
Southern german lager yeast WLP838 not available--used WLP833


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[Wort-H.O.G.]

[Jimmy K]

German lager yeast - sounds like a lager. My guess is it winds up in American Ale from a combination of it doesn't really fit any BJCP style well and the person designing it didn't care much about the 'style' and picked something that matched the color and abv. Not too concerned either way.

[erockrph]

What I've found is that a lot of people have OCD about their recipes falling within the style parameters given in their software. So if the "American Amber Ale" category doesn't give any warnings about SRM/IBU/gravity in their software, then that's where it goes. It's all pretty arbitrary and can simply be ignored.

[chumley]