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Grits is OK. Mash high pH to help maltyness. Weigh hops accurately, by grams if you can, a small error in weight can give an error in IBUs. Noble hops, HMF is good. Look at Martin's Munich Water article in Zymurgy for a good water profile.
Quote from: hopfenundmalz on February 27, 2015, 07:06:32 pmGrits is OK. Mash high pH to help maltyness. Weigh hops accurately, by grams if you can, a small error in weight can give an error in IBUs. Noble hops, HMF is good. Look at Martin's Munich Water article in Zymurgy for a good water profile.I was on my phone yesterday, and now want to explain a little more on the weight part.The first couple of Helles we brewed were knocked for being too bitter. The amount of IBUs targeted was only 20, and when I tasted it, yeah the Master level judge was right the bitterness was too high. Even for a 10 gallon batch it seems you are just waving some hops over the kettle for a Helles! Recently I realized Mrs. R would weigh hops on the same scale we weigh grains on, and that there must be some sticktion at low weights that cause it to weigh a little low at 1 oz. It is fine with a 100 gram test weight, but a Hopunion 1 oz package only weighed about 22 grams on that scale, but weighed 28.5 grams on the small gram scale used for water salt additions. An "ounce" on the bigger scale would result in too large a bittering charge. The Helles that is carbing up right now will show me if I have found the root cause to my bitter Helles issue.
Quote from: hopfenundmalz on February 28, 2015, 07:37:45 amQuote from: hopfenundmalz on February 27, 2015, 07:06:32 pmGrits is OK. Mash high pH to help maltyness. Weigh hops accurately, by grams if you can, a small error in weight can give an error in IBUs. Noble hops, HMF is good. Look at Martin's Munich Water article in Zymurgy for a good water profile.I was on my phone yesterday, and now want to explain a little more on the weight part.The first couple of Helles we brewed were knocked for being too bitter. The amount of IBUs targeted was only 20, and when I tasted it, yeah the Master level judge was right the bitterness was too high. Even for a 10 gallon batch it seems you are just waving some hops over the kettle for a Helles! Recently I realized Mrs. R would weigh hops on the same scale we weigh grains on, and that there must be some sticktion at low weights that cause it to weigh a little low at 1 oz. It is fine with a 100 gram test weight, but a Hopunion 1 oz package only weighed about 22 grams on that scale, but weighed 28.5 grams on the small gram scale used for water salt additions. An "ounce" on the bigger scale would result in too large a bittering charge. The Helles that is carbing up right now will show me if I have found the root cause to my bitter Helles issue.Hmmmmm .... I was hoping you were back to explain the addition of "grits"....
Thanks everyone. I will probably throw some light Munich in. I already measure my hop in grams so I should be good there. Definitely will shoot for under 18 ibus. Yellow malty profile?
The first couple of Helles we brewed were knocked for being too bitter. The amount of IBUs targeted was only 20, and when I tasted it, yeah the Master level judge was right the bitterness was too high. Even for a 10 gallon batch it seems you are just waving some hops over the kettle for a Helles!
Okay so I think I have settled on this:82.5% schill pilsner11% schill munich light5% weyermann acidulated malt1.5% weyermann melanoidin Shooting for mash pH of 5.2-5.3, yellow malty profile. OG 1.047Bitter to ~17 IBUs with noble hops (not sure which yet)W34/70 yeastDoes that look about right?