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When is a lager an ale
« on: March 01, 2015, 10:58:20 PM »
Not too long ago I decided to try my first Boston Lager.  Now I have decided to try and brew one.  When I logon to AHA to look for a receipe and did find one, it was classified as an American Pale Ale.  WHY????

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Re: When is a lager an ale
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2015, 12:10:11 AM »
Ale grist fermented with lager yeast.
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Re: When is a lager an ale
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2015, 12:15:48 AM »
A lager style should be classified by one thing: brewed with lager yeast.

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Re: When is a lager an ale
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2015, 08:45:03 PM »
who says boston lager is an ale? regardless of grist, lager yeast fermented lager temps is a lager. ales regardless of grist fermented at lager temps with ale yeast is still an ale.
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Re: When is a lager an ale
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2015, 08:48:50 PM »
who says boston lager is an ale? regardless of grist, lager yeast fermented lager temps is a lager. ales regardless of grist fermented at lager temps with ale yeast is still an ale.
A lager style should be classified by one thing: brewed with lager yeast.

+1 to both.  I've never heard Boston Lager called an ale.
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Re: When is a lager an ale
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2015, 08:57:39 PM »
A lager is an ale if it is brewed to taste like one.  And vice versa.  In the end it's all about the flavor profile regardless of how it is made.
Ballantine was justly famous for their ales, but during the time when they were the third largest brewer in the USA, they also produced a best selling lager beer...which was actually fermented with a specially selected ale yeast.
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Re: When is a lager an ale
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2015, 09:04:54 PM »
A lager is an ale if it is brewed to taste like one.  And vice versa.  In the end it's all about the flavor profile regardless of how it is made.
Ballantine was justly famous for their ales, but during the time when they were the third largest brewer in the USA, they also produced a best selling lager beer...which was actually fermented with a specially selected ale yeast.

i can make an ale appear to be a lager and a lager appear to be an ale, sure. if boston lager is made with lager yeast and at lager fermentation temps (no idea if it is or not), its a lager.
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Re: When is a lager an ale
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2015, 10:51:23 PM »
S A also makes a Boston Ale, maybe there was a mistake and the pale ale designation meant that beer.
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Re: When is a lager an ale
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2015, 12:41:10 AM »
S A also makes a Boston Ale, maybe there was a mistake and the pale ale designation meant that beer.

This is what I was thinking. And as far as I am concerned if it is made with a lager yeast, and then lagered. It's a lager. If you don't ferment it at the right temp it's a sh!tty lager.

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Re: When is a lager an ale
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2015, 01:36:00 AM »
I went to BeerSmith and clicked on the Recipes tab and searched for Boston Lager clone.  The 8-9 results showed all but one as an American Pale Ale with ale yeast.  I think it is a really nice beer and would like to try brewing something like it.

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Re: When is a lager an ale
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2015, 01:38:44 AM »

I went to BeerSmith and clicked on the Recipes tab and searched for Boston Lager clone.  The 8-9 results showed all but one as an American Pale Ale with ale yeast.  I think it is a really nice beer and would like to try brewing something like it.

Even SA says they use lager yeast. 2-row with crystal grist.


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Re: When is a lager an ale
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2015, 01:55:38 AM »

I went to BeerSmith and clicked on the Recipes tab and searched for Boston Lager clone.  The 8-9 results showed all but one as an American Pale Ale with ale yeast.  I think it is a really nice beer and would like to try brewing something like it.
Those recipes are classified by the Homebrewer who published them on the Beersmith site.

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Re: When is a lager an ale
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2015, 01:56:50 AM »


I went to BeerSmith and clicked on the Recipes tab and searched for Boston Lager clone.  The 8-9 results showed all but one as an American Pale Ale with ale yeast.  I think it is a really nice beer and would like to try brewing something like it.
Those recipes are classified by the Homebrewer who published them on the Beersmith site.

Nice sleuth work...user error it appears.


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Re: When is a lager an ale
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2015, 03:42:53 AM »
A lager style should be classified by one thing: brewed with lager yeast.
Unless the beer is in texas. If its over 5% and in texas, its an ale.

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Re: When is a lager an ale
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2015, 04:06:22 AM »
A lager style should be classified by one thing: brewed with lager yeast.
Unless the beer is in texas. If its over 5% and in texas, its an ale.

That law was changed a year or 2 ago.
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