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Offline MDL

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Floral hop recommendations
« on: February 12, 2023, 03:17:28 pm »
I have a German style pils I’ve been working on the hop profile for. I’ve settled on mittelfruh and saphir for aroma hops but want to kick up a bit more floral character, like lilac type aromas. Any suggestions on a hop to try to blend in? Doesn’t have to be German in origin.

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Re: Floral hop recommendations
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2023, 04:56:37 am »
Perhaps Loral?
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Re: Floral hop recommendations
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2023, 10:02:20 am »
Liberty and Mt Hood, but those are Hallertau Mittelfruh derivatives and might be too close. Tettnang?
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Re: Floral hop recommendations
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2023, 11:15:42 am »
May sound strange but I did a 100% ahtanum pale ale a while ago and it was extremely floral. Not sure how easy they are to find these days
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Re: Floral hop recommendations
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2023, 06:18:09 pm »
All interesting suggestions. Have tried the tetts. Delicious but more herbal than floral. I’ll try blending in a bit of lorel and the ahtanum if I can find em.

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Re: Floral hop recommendations
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2023, 07:19:39 am »
I've had some First Gold that was surprisingly floral (but then, it is related to EKG, isn't it??)  I was hoping to get that orange blossom out of Ahtanum, but was disappointed (could've been the Ahtanum batch I had). 

Crystal sometimes gives me a super-nice floral note; it's a hop that seems to do a little bit of everything in a subtle way, not in front but as a complementary supporting hop. 

I just picked up some Triskel that is supposed to be very floral, but I haven't had a chance to try it yet.

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Re: Floral hop recommendations
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2023, 08:54:59 pm »
Celeia is a floral hop, also. It reminds me more of the stuff they spray on cut flowers to make them smell more floral than fresh flowers.
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Re: Floral hop recommendations
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2023, 02:33:58 am »
Celeia is a floral hop, also. It reminds me more of the stuff they spray on cut flowers to make them smell more floral than fresh flowers.
Indeed. I bought a bunch recently under the impression that they were the Styrian Golding variant that has the orange marmalade character you find in English ales like TTLL, but it isn't (I believe that one is Savinjski). Instead, the Celeia has a light floral, herbal quality. It's subtle, but still pretty nice.
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Re: Floral hop recommendations
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2023, 06:06:28 am »
The Styrian variety I see the Brit BrewTubers use a lot of is Bobek.

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Re: Floral hop recommendations
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2023, 08:05:47 am »
I'm a fan of Strisselspalt.

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Re: Floral hop recommendations
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2023, 12:01:17 pm »
I am a big fan of Loral in a Pils.

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Re: Floral hop recommendations
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2023, 03:30:01 am »
Consider hops high in linalool and geraniol. This is a tool I just found thanks to some insomnia. You can sort on a column. A ranking of 1 is the highest content. Some newer/proprietary hops aren't on there. Loral is high in linalool IIRC.


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Re: Floral hop recommendations
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2023, 08:27:14 am »
Consider hops high in linalool and geraniol. This is a tool I just found thanks to some insomnia. You can sort on a column. A ranking of 1 is the highest content. Some newer/proprietary hops aren't on there. Loral is high in linalool IIRC.


http://scottjanish.com/hop-oils-and-acid-rankings/

And high linalool hops are the ones that most benefit from short cold dry hopping
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Re: Floral hop recommendations
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2023, 01:35:10 pm »
Consider hops high in linalool and geraniol. This is a tool I just found thanks to some insomnia. You can sort on a column. A ranking of 1 is the highest content. Some newer/proprietary hops aren't on there. Loral is high in linalool IIRC.


http://scottjanish.com/hop-oils-and-acid-rankings/

I just want to add the caveat that these are generalizations given that differing yeast strains will biotransform monoterpenes to varying degrees. What goes in isn't necessarily what comes out, depending on yeast strain; time, length, and temperature of the hop/dry-hop addition; etc.
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Re: Floral hop recommendations
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2023, 07:33:42 pm »
Consider hops high in linalool and geraniol. This is a tool I just found thanks to some insomnia. You can sort on a column. A ranking of 1 is the highest content. Some newer/proprietary hops aren't on there. Loral is high in linalool IIRC.


http://scottjanish.com/hop-oils-and-acid-rankings/

I just want to add the caveat that these are generalizations given that differing yeast strains will biotransform monoterpenes to varying degrees. What goes in isn't necessarily what comes out, depending on yeast strain; time, length, and temperature of the hop/dry-hop addition; etc.

Add the recent work on survivable, some hops do well in the boil, others do well as dry hops.
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