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Offline factory

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Re: Gelatin Fining
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2015, 07:14:37 am »
For adding it to keg:  1 tsp for every 5 gallons. Bloom in ~ 1 cup colder water for 15-20 minutes, then microwave for about 1:20 or so until it hits about 150F (that's what I've found with my microwave). Stir, then dump into cold beer.

I fine in the keg using this method.  Just plain old unflavored Knox gelatin.  I've had great success in clearing most beers.  I also have used Bentonite.  Follow the instructions on the package.  It's a PITA to get it to completely dissolve, but it settles nicely in the bottom of the keg and stays tightly packed. 

I prefer the gelatin fining though.

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Re: Gelatin Fining
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2015, 07:33:25 am »
Gotta add , though :  Biofine Clear works at least as well and is much easier to use. Chill the beer thoroughly , add to the keg, rack on top.  Same 24-48 hour wait.  I'm surprised more people aren't using it.

http://www.morebeer.com/products/biofine-clear-clarifier-1-oz.html
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Re: Gelatin Fining
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2015, 07:43:27 am »
For adding it to keg:  1 tsp for every 5 gallons. Bloom in ~ 1 cup colder water for 15-20 minutes, then microwave for about 1:20 or so until it hits about 150F (that's what I've found with my microwave). Stir, then dump into cold beer.

This is how I do it.  The key is to add it to cold beer, particularly if you want to get rid of chill haze.  The beer needs to be cold enough for the haze to form, or else the gelatin won't do anything.

I haven't added it to a fermenter in over 10 years.  I usually try to give my beers time to clear on their own and only use gelatin when they are stubborn.
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Re: Gelatin Fining
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2015, 08:36:33 am »
I use that Bertus method, too.  In the keg.
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Re: Gelatin Fining
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2015, 09:11:28 am »
Don't want to derail so I can start a new thread if necessary...

I used gelatin in the fermenter a few days ago when I normally throw it in while transferring to the keg. I forgot that I was planning on pitching a new batch onto that yeast. Is that a bad idea? I've got some dry yeast around if necessary.
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Re: Gelatin Fining
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2015, 09:22:58 am »
Don't want to derail so I can start a new thread if necessary...

I used gelatin in the fermenter a few days ago when I normally throw it in while transferring to the keg. I forgot that I was planning on pitching a new batch onto that yeast. Is that a bad idea? I've got some dry yeast around if necessary.

 I wouldn't risk using it. The gelatin's job is to precipitate the yeast out of suspension. I don't know how you could effectively separate the two now. Not saying it's impossible, but there'd be a lot less worry with new yeast.
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Re: Gelatin Fining
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2015, 09:27:36 am »
Don't want to derail so I can start a new thread if necessary...

I used gelatin in the fermenter a few days ago when I normally throw it in while transferring to the keg. I forgot that I was planning on pitching a new batch onto that yeast. Is that a bad idea? I've got some dry yeast around if necessary.

 I wouldn't risk using it. The gelatin's job is to precipitate the yeast out of suspension. I don't know how you could effectively separate the two now. Not saying it's impossible, but there'd be a lot less worry with new yeast.
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No sense risking it, use the fresh yeast. Although if you want to experiment, let us know if it works:)
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Re: Gelatin Fining
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2015, 09:38:02 am »
Thanks. I won't risk it.

The current yeast is WLP029 so I was looking forward to reusing it. I am brewing an APA. Preferences over US05 or S04?
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Re: Gelatin Fining
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2015, 09:40:47 am »
Thanks. I won't risk it.

The current yeast is WLP029. I am brewing an APA. Preferences over US05 or S04?

05 for APA for me.
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Re: Gelatin Fining
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2015, 10:44:55 am »
Don't want to derail so I can start a new thread if necessary...

I used gelatin in the fermenter a few days ago when I normally throw it in while transferring to the keg. I forgot that I was planning on pitching a new batch onto that yeast. Is that a bad idea? I've got some dry yeast around if necessary.
Couldn't you make a simple starter (or a shaken-not-stirred starter) and see what happens?
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Re: Gelatin Fining
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2015, 11:32:15 am »
Don't want to derail so I can start a new thread if necessary...

I used gelatin in the fermenter a few days ago when I normally throw it in while transferring to the keg. I forgot that I was planning on pitching a new batch onto that yeast. Is that a bad idea? I've got some dry yeast around if necessary.
Couldn't you make a simple starter (or a shaken-not-stirred starter) and see what happens?

I could but I am lazy and don't have time for starter.
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Re: Gelatin Fining
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2015, 12:14:35 pm »
Don't want to derail so I can start a new thread if necessary...

I used gelatin in the fermenter a few days ago when I normally throw it in while transferring to the keg. I forgot that I was planning on pitching a new batch onto that yeast. Is that a bad idea? I've got some dry yeast around if necessary.
Couldn't you make a simple starter (or a shaken-not-stirred starter) and see what happens?

I could but I am lazy and don't have time for starter.

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Re: Gelatin Fining
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2015, 03:10:39 am »
Beer cold as possible
Disolve gelatin in water
Heat to 150-170°
Rack beer onto gelatin
Or to fix a cloudy beer just pour in filled keg and agitate

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Re: Gelatin Fining
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2015, 06:26:59 am »
Why not use the beer instead of water?
No need to agitate.
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Re: Gelatin Fining
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2015, 07:00:23 am »
Beer cold as possible
Disolve gelatin in water
Heat to 150-170°
Rack beer onto gelatin
Or to fix a cloudy beer just pour in filled keg and agitate

Yes?

Yep, it's what works for me.
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