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Imperial Pils hops
« on: March 23, 2015, 12:31:14 PM »
What do you guys think about blending Tettnanger and Crystal hops for an Imperial Pils and maybe a little Belma?

I haven't used Tett in so many years I can't remember if I like it or not. And I can't get Hallertauer.

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Re: Imperial Pils hops
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2015, 12:50:29 PM »
What do you guys think about blending Tettnanger and Crystal hops for an Imperial Pils and maybe a little Belma?

I haven't used Tett in so many years I can't remember if I like it or not. And I can't get Hallertauer.

i think the belma would be most interesting with the fruit contribution. had a local pils here tha'ts highly hopped and has that tropical/citrus finish.  can you get mt. hood vs tett? what blend are you considering for your schedule?
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Re: Imperial Pils hops
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2015, 12:54:39 PM »
Tett and Crystal should work nicely. I would use the crystal late and dry hop with it if you plan to dry hop. There is a beer I make that is not quit an imperial Pils, but uses several of the US noble derivatives - had it at Philly for club night. It had Vanguard for bittering, Santium (Tett derivative) at around 30 minutes and lots of crystal late and dry. Nice beer, very much a big Pilsner, but there was that what is this American hop aroma creeping in thing to it.

I think it would would appeal to the IPA drinker and the classic lager drinker.
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Re: Imperial Pils hops
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2015, 01:04:30 PM »
I think it sounds great.  The Belma would definitely give it some subtle fruity character, in addition to the traditional character of the others.
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Re: Imperial Pils hops
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2015, 01:14:52 PM »
I think it sounds great.  The Belma would definitely give it some subtle fruity character, in addition to the traditional character of the others.
Crystal is fruity, as cascade was one of its grandparents.
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Re: Imperial Pils hops
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2015, 01:21:52 PM »
I think it sounds great.  The Belma would definitely give it some subtle fruity character, in addition to the traditional character of the others.
Crystal is fruity, as cascade was one of its grandparents.

I was thinking it was a Hallertau spinoff, I could easily be wrong.  I get more spiciness from it. 
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Re: Imperial Pils hops
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2015, 01:23:48 PM »
Tett and Crystal should work nicely. I would use the crystal late and dry hop with it if you plan to dry hop. There is a beer I make that is not quit an imperial Pils, but uses several of the US noble derivatives - had it at Philly for club night. It had Vanguard for bittering, Santium (Tett derivative) at around 30 minutes and lots of crystal late and dry. Nice beer, very much a big Pilsner, but there was that what is this American hop aroma creeping in thing to it.

I think it would would appeal to the IPA drinker and the classic lager drinker.

Sounds a lot like one I make (Vanguard, Santium, Crystal).

Major --I think this will be very good. Tett and Crystal play nicely together.
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Re: Imperial Pils hops
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2015, 01:24:46 PM »
I think it sounds great.  The Belma would definitely give it some subtle fruity character, in addition to the traditional character of the others.
Crystal is fruity, as cascade was one of its grandparents.

I was thinking it was a Hallertau spinoff, I could easily be wrong.  I get more spiciness from it.

It is a Hallertau derivative, but it does have that American citrus thing going on. A combo of Belma and Crystal late/dry might work well.
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Re: Imperial Pils hops
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2015, 01:25:43 PM »
I think it sounds great.  The Belma would definitely give it some subtle fruity character, in addition to the traditional character of the others.
Crystal is fruity, as cascade was one of its grandparents.

I was thinking it was a Hallertau spinoff, I could easily be wrong.  I get more spiciness from it.

I believe a Hallertau is in its lineage as well. Crystal is an interesting hop that varies on how it is used, and I imagine the growing season. I've had fruitier versions, and spicier versions.
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Re: Imperial Pils hops
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2015, 01:26:08 PM »
Tett and Crystal should work nicely. I would use the crystal late and dry hop with it if you plan to dry hop. There is a beer I make that is not quit an imperial Pils, but uses several of the US noble derivatives - had it at Philly for club night. It had Vanguard for bittering, Santium (Tett derivative) at around 30 minutes and lots of crystal late and dry. Nice beer, very much a big Pilsner, but there was that what is this American hop aroma creeping in thing to it.

I think it would would appeal to the IPA drinker and the classic lager drinker.

Sounds a lot like one I make (Vanguard, Santium, Crystal).

Major --I think this will be very good. Tett and Crystal play nicely together.

Those Ameican noble derivative are underappreciated.
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Re: Imperial Pils hops
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2015, 01:32:12 PM »



Sounds a lot like one I make (Vanguard, Santium, Crystal).

Major --I think this will be very good. Tett and Crystal play nicely together.

Those Ameican noble derivative are underappreciated.

I couldn't agree more. I want to get some Liberty and give that a try.
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Re: Imperial Pils hops
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2015, 01:39:48 PM »



Sounds a lot like one I make (Vanguard, Santium, Crystal).

Major --I think this will be very good. Tett and Crystal play nicely together.

Those Ameican noble derivative are underappreciated.

I couldn't agree more. I want to get some Liberty and give that a try.

+2.  I like Mt Hood and Liberty together. Really nice.
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Re: Imperial Pils hops
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2015, 02:09:02 PM »



Sounds a lot like one I make (Vanguard, Santium, Crystal).

Major --I think this will be very good. Tett and Crystal play nicely together.

Those Ameican noble derivative are underappreciated.

I couldn't agree more. I want to get some Liberty and give that a try.

+2.  I like Mt Hood and Liberty together. Really nice.

Did a CAP finished with liberty and Mt Hood. Yes, a really nice combo!
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Re: Imperial Pils hops
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2015, 02:11:47 PM »

Did a CAP finished with liberty and Mt Hood. Yes, a really nice combo!

Yeah, I used the two last year when I tried the Kiwanda cream ale all whirlpool method.  Really liked it.

EDIT - It would've been out of style for flavor and aroma in a comp, but I had always liked the combo, so I dry hopped an oz (or two ?) of the blend. It was good !
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Re: Imperial Pils hops
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2015, 08:31:47 PM »
I was thinking it was a Hallertau spinoff, I could easily be wrong.  I get more spiciness from it.

Jeff is on the money.  Crystal is like Hallertau with Cascade notes. 

Crystal and Tettnanger (real Tettnanger, not US Tettnanger) is a great combo. Crystal, Tettnanger, and Liberty is an even better blend, especially when Tettnanger is used as the flavor hop and Crystal and Liberty are used as aroma hops. 
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