I am quite confused about the color combinations vienna, pilsner, and wheat malt lend to beer. Two beers I make are an american wheat and saison which have the same grains in different proportions such that the saison is a rich orange/gold color and the wheat is very pale/straw. However, the wheat beer actually has more vienna than the saison; since I assume most of the color in the saison is coming from the vienna, this really confuses me. How is the wheat so much paler even thoough it has a higher percentage of vienna? Where is the added color in the saison coming from? Does a higher percentage of wheat malt over pilsner malt make for a lighter color (I thought they had roughly the same SRM)? Am I making sense at all? (The OGs for the beers are similar and the malt percentages are below btw)
Saison %
Pilsner: 75
Malted Wheat: 15
Vienna: 10
Wheat %
Pilsner: 35
Malted Wheat: 50
Vienna: 15