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Re: Apple Juice as Hot Liquor?
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2015, 06:25:53 am »
The boiling removes some of the apple aromatics and flavor so you might consider some apple concentrate after fermentation has finished to bump up apple flavor if needed.

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Re: Apple Juice as Hot Liquor?
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2015, 08:00:04 am »
Seems like juice in the mash could screw up your mash pH, but that wouldn't be a worry as sparge water.
Yes, I didn't mean in the mash. I think I would do the mash on the thick side and sparge with cider.
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Re: Apple Juice as Hot Liquor?
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2015, 08:00:33 am »
The boiling removes some of the apple aromatics and flavor so you might consider some apple concentrate after fermentation has finished to bump up apple flavor if needed.
I think I would use the cider syrup here.
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Re: Apple Juice as Hot Liquor?
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2015, 09:07:33 am »
I think these are all great ideas. In good apple years I often end up with 15-30 gallons of cider. Last year sucked which generally means this will be a good year unless we get a killing frost while apple trees are blooming. Usually we use all of it to make cyser and hard cider. I might try using some take the wort and some added late. I have a friend who has a business thatakes both cider and cider syrup and he gives me a lot of cider syrup so that might go in the mix too. I'll definitely use pectic enzyme.

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Re: Apple Juice as Hot Liquor?
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2015, 10:18:11 am »
Seems like juice in the mash could screw up your mash pH, but that wouldn't be a worry as sparge water.
Yes, I didn't mean in the mash. I think I would do the mash on the thick side and sparge with cider.
That sounds like a good idea. Remember that sugars in the cider will be completely fermentable, so you might want to mash a little higher.
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Re: Apple Juice as Hot Liquor?
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2015, 10:58:15 am »
Seems like juice in the mash could screw up your mash pH, but that wouldn't be a worry as sparge water.
Yes, I didn't mean in the mash. I think I would do the mash on the thick side and sparge with cider.
That sounds like a good idea. Remember that sugars in the cider will be completely fermentable, so you might want to mash a little higher.
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Re: Apple Juice as Hot Liquor?
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2015, 01:28:53 pm »
Keith and I have bumped into each other previously on this topic...

I've been making a smoked apple ale for years as well.  This year I decided that I don't really like the smoke too much so I'll delete that from my recipe as a personal preference.  I basically make a small 2-gallon BIAB batch of beer, then warm up a gallon of cider on the side to about 160-170 F for 15 minutes to sanitize and add at the very end of the boil, to make a total of 3 gallons apple ale.  It's quite delicious.  Tart with just a hint of apple, not in your face appley, but pleasant.  I heat my cider but don't boil it, and this helps prevent the cloudiness you would get otherwise.

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http://forum.northernbrewer.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=71478&p=662452&hilit=harvest+apple#p662452

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Re: Apple Juice as Hot Liquor?
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2015, 01:45:34 pm »
Actually, Dave I was just thinking of searching for this thread. We'll be swimming in cider this year (HUGE apple year) so in addition to cider and cyser, I have been thinking of apple ale.
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Re: Apple Juice as Hot Liquor?
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2015, 01:48:29 pm »
I still maintain that less or zero smoked malt be used, unless you're positive you'll like it.  Personally I don't like it, but apparently there are other people out there who do like it!
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Re: Apple Juice as Hot Liquor?
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2015, 01:53:23 pm »
I still maintain that less or zero smoked malt be used, unless you're positive you'll like it.  Personally I don't like it, but apparently there are other people out there who do like it!
I generally like smoky flavors but probably won't go to the trouble of buying smoked malt or smoking it myself the first time around.
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Re: Apple Juice as Hot Liquor?
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2015, 07:44:32 pm »
Congrats, Dave.  I spoke with some of the judges in that category (I had a different set of categories) and they were raving - stiff competition, too!

I judged the winner in the German Pils category (not the BOS round) that won the BOS, so I know yours had to be good as the other judges stated.
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