[hopfenundmalz]

As an old guy, sounds like you should brew Sister Star of the Sun IPA.  A great old recipe that I have made several times over the years.  It will get you all the earthiness and piney that you want.

http://www.realbeer.com/hops/sister.html

Man I must be conservative. 3 oz of chinook for bittering 5 gallons seems crazy to me.

It works,I'm have brewed it many times. It needs time to condition, just like the original IPAs.

[leowaiau]

If I was to some EKG in there at flame out do you think that would bolster an earthy hop aroma that would add to the pine? Also what are some none hop ingredients that may add to the piney-ness? Pine needles maybe?


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[HoosierBrew]

If I was to some EKG in there at flame out do you think that would bolster an earthy hop aroma that would add to the pine? Also what are some none hop ingredients that may add to the piney-ness? Pine needles maybe?


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EKG just won't give you the true earthy character that Willamette or Fuggles will. And the straightest, easiest, and safest way to add DRINKABLE pine character to your beer is to use Chinook or Simcoe hops. To account for the strength of the piney hops, use around twice the earthy hops as you would the piney ones. It'll work nicely.

[leowaiau]

Is there a certain placing I should add the hops in your opinion. When to add piney and when to add earthy. Ex. 60 min/30 min/etc ?


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[HoosierBrew]

Is there a certain placing I should add the hops in your opinion. When to add piney and when to add earthy. Ex. 60 min/30 min/etc ?


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Being a pale ale, I would add 1/2 oz Chinook @ 60 minutes, a 1/2 oz Chinook and 1 oz Willamette mixture @ 15minutes , 5 minutes and at flameout. Then dry hop the same amount of this mixture for a week at room temp.

[leowaiau]

Let me throw this curve ball into the mix. What if I replaced the Pilsner for Maris otter? I like the pils but when I look at it the recipe I also feel the Maris otter could bring something tastey.


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[curtism1234]

Let me throw this curve ball into the mix. What if I replaced the Pilsner for Maris otter? I like the pils but when I look at it the recipe I also feel the Maris otter could bring something tastey.


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If that's the case, the munich isn't going to be doing much for you

[Iliff Ave]

Let me throw this curve ball into the mix. What if I replaced the Pilsner for Maris otter? I like the pils but when I look at it the recipe I also feel the Maris otter could bring something tastey.

Are you referring to the original recipe with pilsner LME? I don't think they make marris otter extract but I could very well mistaken.

[reverseapachemaster]

Not everywhere sells it but yes there is Marris Otter LME.

[HoosierBrew]

Not everywhere sells it but yes there is Marris Otter LME.

Yep.    http://www.morebeer.com/products/maris-otter-malt-extract-syrup-crisp.html

[Iliff Ave]

Ok cool. Haven't done extract in quite some time and never saw it back then. Thanks for the correction.