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Offline VALKIRIA01

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Starter with water
« on: June 08, 2015, 10:11:25 PM »
Everybody says starter should be like a small wort made with dme nutrients and so , but randy mosher says in mastering homebrew to avoid using dme , just water , is he alright? I mean what could possibly happen if i just add yeast to the water , stir and then add it to the wort?

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Re: Starter with water
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2015, 11:48:14 PM »
I think you are misreading.

If you are using dry yeast you don't need or want to make a starter because the yeast are packaged with sufficient reserves to get going and making a starter will only results in them depleting these reserves.

Rehydrating the dry yeast in plain, boiled and cooled water will help cushion the yeast a but so they are not as stressed when introducing them to the wort.

you are correct that you will not increase your yeast count using only water.
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Re: Starter with water
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2015, 12:00:34 AM »
Morticaixavier, thank you , but how about a vial?

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Re: Starter with water
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2015, 12:23:56 AM »
If you mix liquid yeast from a vial or pouch (or any other container) with water you will also have the same number of yeast but in a larger volume of liquid.
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Re: Starter with water
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2015, 12:24:53 AM »
Thank you guys, appreciate it

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Re: Starter with water
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2015, 12:41:42 AM »
Morticaixavier, thank you , but how about a vial?
You need DME to feed the yeast, otherwise there will be no cell growth. No DME=no starter
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Re: Starter with water
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2015, 12:43:02 AM »
Got it , thanks cheers

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Re: Starter with water
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2015, 03:16:41 AM »
Otoh you can use water a a sea monkey starter.

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Re: Starter with water
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2015, 03:35:05 AM »
Lol but then i would get a sea monkey hangover that d be a problem

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Re: Starter with water
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2015, 02:25:09 PM »
Just wanted to say I re read mosher and morticaixavier was right I misread thank you all