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Offline Wort-H.O.G.

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Re: Red X Malt in a Pale Ale
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2015, 06:38:50 pm »

Ok, sold. May still toss in a bit of CaraPils for security. My last SMaSH had some head retention problems.

I might push the sulfate a bit. Last APA I went all in on the BWS Pale Ale profile - turned out well and scored a couple of great score sheets.

I was targeting about the same IBUs anyway... 49-ish, but some of the hops are from 2011, vac sealed and frozen. The Willamette and Amarillo are brand new.
I used 6 oz carapils in mine also.  Think you will be happy with your plan. I went 150f in the mash with wlp090.


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Re: Red X Malt in a Pale Ale
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2015, 09:58:05 am »
Ok, I see what y'all mean. Super Munich. Just finished lautering and ramping up the boil. Really interesting color - very red. Can't wait to see this in the glass. The taste of the wort is super-malty.
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Re: Red X Malt in a Pale Ale
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2015, 01:53:06 pm »
Ok the final recipe below. I got 8 extra points of efficiency to boot, this stuff mills a lot like fat Maris Otter. Really nice. Made a shift from WLP001 to Nottingham because I want the malt to shine. 15L was the right setting in BWS - I came in at 5.36, +0.03 over the estimated mash pH. Color is pretty much a middle red to copper color. Should be pretty in the glass.

11 gallon batch

20# Red X Malt
1.5# CaraPils
Used the BWS Pale Ale profile, pickling lime to raise alkalinity, 100% RO
90 minute mash at 152F - had some issues hitting strike temp, overshot to 160F and dropped to 152F

FHW with 1 oz Magnum and Amarillo, 45 minutes lauter
Whirlfloc @ 15 minutes
Whirlpool/Stand 30 minutes above 180F, 2 oz Willamette + 1 oz Columbus

Nottingham, will ferment low at 64F. Will dry hop with a couple of ounces of Amarillo and Williamette.

Looking forward to seeing how this turns out. I can imagine a rich dubbel or a dunkel using this and being really nice.

Thanks everyone for their input.
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Re: Red X Malt in a Pale Ale
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2015, 03:21:24 pm »
Sounds yummy. I'm going to brew a Red Lager with nearly 100% Red X and a few ounces of carafoam. I'll probably hop it like a Bo Pils with Saaz.

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Red X Malt in a Pale Ale
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2015, 12:33:29 pm »
OK this is finally in the keg and carbonated.

I dry hopped with an addition 2 oz of Amarillo and 1 oz of Williamette. Used some polyclar and it cleared nice and bright. Lovely red color... big malt character fights a bit with the hoppyness, but very drinkable. I have no idea where to put this relative to a style... no toasty or roasty notes like a brown ale, way too hoppy for an Irish red...  will add a picture in a few...

I can see this as a sub in with 2-row or pils for color and some malty tones in a pale ale. I wonder how it would do in an Octoberfest or Dunkel.

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Re: Red X Malt in a Pale Ale
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2015, 12:50:29 pm »
Looks good regardless, Matt !
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Re: Red X Malt in a Pale Ale
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2015, 09:01:31 am »
Talked with a fellow home brewer in Germany about this. Seems that Red X is a blended malt from Munich, Melanoiden and Cara(red?). He visited Best and took quite good notes. Their malt analysis sheet doesn't say anything about the blend... so I guess take that as an anecdote.

One other note: As this batch continues to mature, there is a more prominent toast flavor in the aftertaste.
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Re: Red X Malt in a Pale Ale
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2015, 09:07:53 am »
Good info, Matt. Thanks !
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Re: Red X Malt in a Pale Ale
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2015, 06:51:58 am »
I've been wondering what the makeup of this malt is and I came across this in another forum. I've also contacted Best about this but haven't heard back.

http://www.homebrewdad.com/view_topic.php?topicid=467

I'm purchasing a sack of this stuff and I'm going to brew some Ofest, Dunkel and Red Lagers with it.