[ynotbrusum]

I am not going to admit to reading this thread in its entirety.  Given how the COTY is determined, it means what it means - size apparently matters or at least helps in this statistically, but it doesn't mean that TBN is any better as a club than any other club nor any worse.  Maybe classifying clubs by various parameters and categories and awarding within the classification might help matters, but I don't think it needs to be like high school athletics, does it?

I am happy that a member of my club won a gold medal in a difficult category and he is validated for what we in the club already knew well - that is, that he is a great homebrewer.  That I personally know him, have talked with him many times and he is an all around great guy, allows me to share in the club's pride for him.  What more is there?  I view brewing as the one area in my life where collaboration and collegiality is co-existent with competition.  Sharing is commonplace and legitimate happiness for successes of others is openly expressed.

Peace and love, all. 

[pete b]

I am not going to admit to reading this thread in its entirety.  Given how the COTY is determined, it means what it means - size apparently matters or at least helps in this statistically, but it doesn't mean that TBN is any better as a club than any other club nor any worse.  Maybe classifying clubs by various parameters and categories and awarding within the classification might help matters, but I don't think it needs to be like high school athletics, does it?

I am happy that a member of my club won a gold medal in a difficult category and he is validated for what we in the club already knew well - that is, that he is a great homebrewer.  That I personally know him, have talked with him many times and he is an all around great guy, allows me to share in the club's pride for him.  What more is there?  I view brewing as the one area in my life where collaboration and collegiality is co-existent with competition.  Sharing is commonplace and legitimate happiness for successes of others is openly expressed.

Peace and love, all.

Am I reading something on the internet?
Seriously, nice sentiments and for new posters I can say this tone is pretty typical for this forum.

[HoosierBrew]

I think it would be cool if COTY was awarded based on some type of actual collaboration or cooperation within the club, so that the club who wins is actually being recognized by their functioning as a club, not just a collection of individuals who may or may not know each other or communicate with each other.

I told myself I was gonna let the thread (eventually) die by its own accord, but since there's no sign of that happening anytime soon (), I would offer two definitions :

1/   LETTER OF THE LAW : What BN is justifiably doing within the written rules. BN has made a huge contribution to the homebrewing community, so no dog in the fight on my part.

2/ SPIRIT OF THE LAW :  "I think it would be cool if COTY was awarded based on some type of actual collaboration or cooperation within the club, so that the club who wins is actually being recognized by their functioning as a club, not just a collection of individuals who may or may not know each other or communicate with each other. " In other words, what Pete said.

In short, I think Spirit Of The Law = Level Playing Field. So Dan's analogy of the 1500 lb goalie that completely blocks out the goal is pretty much perfect. Like we need another $0.02. 

[bboy9000]

"Spirit of the Law," in my mind means we BNers are intentionally trying to take advantage of the rules.  That's what the 1500# goalie example would be.

[HoosierBrew]

"Spirit of the Law," in my mind means we BNers are intentionally trying to take advantage of the rules.  That's what the 1500# goalie example would be.

Not my perception of it. Just that the nationwide saturation makes it unavoidable. Again, no axe to grind on my part.

[Stevie]

"Spirit of the Law," in my mind means we BNers are intentionally trying to take advantage of the rules.  That's what the 1500# goalie example would be.

Not my perception of it. Just that the nationwide saturation makes it unavoidable. Again, no axe to grind on my part.

I disagree. The number of entries (200-300 posts ago) wasn't much higher compared to quaff.

[klickitat jim]

[Stevie]

I hear he would have entered. If only he had the willpower to not drink all five gallons out of the siphon hose.

[klickitat jim]

Funny, but in the analogy who is the six fingered man?

[klickitat jim]

Funny, but in the analogy you have to admit,  Justin is definitely the Six Fingered Man!

I think we all know who this is

[klickitat jim]

This is the moderator saying that this thread is only Mostly dead

[pete b]

This is the moderator saying that this thread is only Mostly dead

have fun storming the NHC!

[santoch]

This is the moderator saying that this thread is only Mostly dead

[Stevie]

And to sum up the thread...

[erockrph]

And to sum up the thread...

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