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When to FWH?
« on: June 21, 2015, 01:38:47 PM »
I'm batch sparging and would like to know when and where to add the FWH addition?
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Re: When to FWH?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2015, 01:48:16 PM »
I add to the kettle right before I pull my first runnings.

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Re: When to FWH?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2015, 01:50:24 PM »

I add to the kettle right before I pull my first runnings.

So essentially they are in the wort (first runnings and second) the whole time.

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Re: When to FWH?
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2015, 01:53:17 PM »

I add to the kettle right before I pull my first runnings.

So essentially they are in the wort (first runnings and second) the whole time.
The way I was taught, the FWH should steep at 170F for about an hour.
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Re: When to FWH?
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2015, 01:54:14 PM »
^would you simply heat all of your wort up to that and hold for an hour prior to the boil?

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Re: When to FWH?
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2015, 02:09:15 PM »
^would you simply heat all of your wort up to that and hold for an hour prior to the boil?
You sparge after mash out at 168-170F. You might have to apply a little heat to the wort if you don't do a mash out, and to counter the heat loss as the kettle is warmed by the wort. Run off in a commercial brewery can take an hour, so you are trying to replicate that.

Has anyone noticed that this is similar to a 170F hop stand/whirlpool? The difference is a boil happens after FWH.
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Re: When to FWH?
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2015, 03:13:28 PM »
I put them in my kettle just before first runnings, then don't change anything from my normal process. This means proceed straight on to the batch sparge, then right to the burner to start heating up for the boil.

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Re: When to FWH?
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2015, 03:15:12 PM »
I put them in my kettle just before first runnings, then don't change anything from my normal process. This means proceed straight on to the batch sparge, then right to the burner to start heating up for the boil.

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Re: When to FWH?
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2015, 03:48:11 PM »
I put them in my kettle just before first runnings, then don't change anything from my normal process. This means proceed straight on to the batch sparge, then right to the burner to start heating up for the boil.

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+2.  Same thing I do.
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Re: When to FWH?
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2015, 04:21:31 PM »

I add to the kettle right before I pull my first runnings.

So essentially they are in the wort (first runnings and second) the whole time.
The way I was taught, the FWH should steep at 170F for about an hour.

Never heard that one and I certainly don't do it.
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Re: When to FWH?
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2015, 04:22:14 PM »
I put them in my kettle just before first runnings, then don't change anything from my normal process. This means proceed straight on to the batch sparge, then right to the burner to start heating up for the boil.

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+2.  Same thing I do.

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Re: When to FWH?
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2015, 04:23:25 PM »

I add to the kettle right before I pull my first runnings.

So essentially they are in the wort (first runnings and second) the whole time.
The way I was taught, the FWH should steep at 170F for about an hour.

Never heard that one and I certainly don't do it.

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Re: When to FWH?
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2015, 04:24:39 PM »

I add to the kettle right before I pull my first runnings.

So essentially they are in the wort (first runnings and second) the whole time.
The way I was taught, the FWH should steep at 170F for about an hour.

Never heard that one and I certainly don't do it.

You never brewed with Jeff Renner.

Pffftttt...what does HE know?  ;)

On a somewhat more serious note, I wonder where he got that.
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Re: When to FWH?
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2015, 04:26:14 PM »

I add to the kettle right before I pull my first runnings.

So essentially they are in the wort (first runnings and second) the whole time.
The way I was taught, the FWH should steep at 170F for about an hour.

Never heard that one and I certainly don't do it.

You never brewed with Jeff Renner.

Pffftttt...what does HE know?  ;)

On a somewhat more serious note, I wonder where he got that.

I will ask next time I see him. Probably from an old German (or an old German book).
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Re: When to FWH?
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2015, 04:27:39 PM »
I will ask next time I see him. Probably from an old German (or an old German book).

That's what I'd guess.  The old German technique also said that you should use only low alpha noble hops.  I've proven to myself that's not true.
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