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Re: Rethinking my brewery
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2015, 09:40:20 pm »
Also the drain may not be necessary, I dump the spent grains in a 5 gal pail to feed chickens and with a quick rinse you can pop it in the dishwasher (I haven't had great success with the dishwasher though)


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Re: Rethinking my brewery
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2015, 10:01:01 pm »
I would really like to have a deep utility sink nearby so cleanup is easy. I could run a vent out of my basement,

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Re: Rethinking my brewery
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2015, 09:40:06 am »
God I feel the pain of no dedicated brewery which is why I often do smaller batches biab. Much of the time I save is in having less stuff to lug and using the kitchen stove. So what size batch can a zymatic handle assuming not super high gravity.
I'm pretty sure it's a straight ahead 2.5 gallon batch size (although I'm sure there's a max gravity based on the amount of grain it can hold).  OK, looked it up, and it appears to brew with a finished batch size of 2.5 gallons with a starting wort amount of ~3 gallons.  It can brew beers with up to a 1.090 OG without adding DME (according to their FAQ).

Yep.  Tops out at 9 lb. of grain, but you can get up to 1.090 with it.  That means that you could make 5 gal. of a 1.045 beer by dilution.  I start with 3.25 gal. of water and end up with a 2.5 gal. batch.
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Re: Rethinking my brewery
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2015, 11:51:53 am »
I have not had a wild yeast problem. But, I've always wondered about applying starsan to fermenters freshly rinsed with tap water after cleaning- even if it is just to get some dust off. Perhaps it would be better to let them dry first?

Moved the brewery out of the garage and back into the kitchen years back. But have rethought matters and have been making some nice upgrades. More to come on that...

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Re: Rethinking my brewery
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2015, 10:07:47 am »
I have been brewing for 21yrs and received my Zymatic about 10 days ago. I have already brewed two batches which are in the chamber now. Itching to return home from business travel this week and brew another. I find the simplicity of it all the best for me. Gives me back family time and still allows me to pursue my hobby.  Verdict still out on the final result for me but I'm not too concerned.  The perfect crush is far more important on the Zymatic.....I am finding.

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Re: Rethinking my brewery
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2015, 10:57:53 am »
I have been brewing for 21yrs and received my Zymatic about 10 days ago. I have already brewed two batches which are in the chamber now. Itching to return home from business travel this week and brew another. I find the simplicity of it all the best for me. Gives me back family time and still allows me to pursue my hobby.  Verdict still out on the final result for me but I'm not too concerned.  The perfect crush is far more important on the Zymatic.....I am finding.

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Yeah, I found that about the crush on the Zymatic also, but it only took me a couple batches to find a mill setting that worked well both with the Zymatic and my cooler system.
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Re: Rethinking my brewery
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2015, 02:35:34 pm »
On the topic of sanitizers, about 10 years ago when I started brewing lambics I started to get a nasty infection that star san and bleach just didn't seem to take care of.  I finally got rid of it for good when I boiled all my hoses and small parts, and gave my fermentors and kegs a thorough soaking in a quaternary ammonium solution.  I try to repeat the quat soak once every couple of years, just to knock any resistant bug strains.

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Re: Rethinking my brewery
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2015, 03:41:37 pm »

I have been brewing for 21yrs and received my Zymatic about 10 days ago. I have already brewed two batches which are in the chamber now. Itching to return home from business travel this week and brew another. I find the simplicity of it all the best for me. Gives me back family time and still allows me to pursue my hobby.  Verdict still out on the final result for me but I'm not too concerned.  The perfect crush is far more important on the Zymatic.....I am finding.

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Yeah, I found that about the crush on the Zymatic also, but it only took me a couple batches to find a mill setting that worked well both with the Zymatic and my cooler system.
Did you have to open the gap or close it?

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Re: Rethinking my brewery
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2015, 06:24:53 pm »
Yep.  Tops out at 9 lb. of grain, but you can get up to 1.090 with it.  That means that you could make 5 gal. of a 1.045 beer by dilution.  I start with 3.25 gal. of water and end up with a 2.5 gal. batch.
If you were shooting for a bigger beer, could you brew a smaller batch (like 2 gallons) with the full 9 pounds of grain? Or is there a minimum amount of water, or mash thickness constraints? Could you run an iterated mash by replacing the grains and mashing a 2nd time, or are you forced to go straight to the boil process from the mash?

I really like the PicoBrew concept. The main constraint on my brewing is time. If I had an appliance that let me "set it and forget it" through the entire mash and boil, I'd be able to brew way more often. I already brew 2.5 gallon batches, so that would work out perfect for me. If the price point was lower, I'd be all over it.
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Re: Rethinking my brewery
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2015, 07:55:12 pm »

I have been brewing for 21yrs and received my Zymatic about 10 days ago. I have already brewed two batches which are in the chamber now. Itching to return home from business travel this week and brew another. I find the simplicity of it all the best for me. Gives me back family time and still allows me to pursue my hobby.  Verdict still out on the final result for me but I'm not too concerned.  The perfect crush is far more important on the Zymatic.....I am finding.

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Yeah, I found that about the crush on the Zymatic also, but it only took me a couple batches to find a mill setting that worked well both with the Zymatic and my cooler system.
Did you have to open the gap or close it?
My crush was very fine with my cooler setup.  I am having to open up the gap for a more coarse crush to raise my efficiency.  It sounds counter-intuitive, but the Zymatic recirculates the mash and doesn't really sparge.  Too fine a crush prohibits a good filter.  At least that is my experience in the limited two brews.

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Rethinking my brewery
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2015, 09:05:47 pm »

I have been brewing for 21yrs and received my Zymatic about 10 days ago. I have already brewed two batches which are in the chamber now. Itching to return home from business travel this week and brew another. I find the simplicity of it all the best for me. Gives me back family time and still allows me to pursue my hobby.  Verdict still out on the final result for me but I'm not too concerned.  The perfect crush is far more important on the Zymatic.....I am finding.

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Yeah, I found that about the crush on the Zymatic also, but it only took me a couple batches to find a mill setting that worked well both with the Zymatic and my cooler system.
Did you have to open the gap or close it?
My crush was very fine with my cooler setup.  I am having to open up the gap for a more coarse crush to raise my efficiency.  It sounds counter-intuitive, but the Zymatic recirculates the mash and doesn't really sparge.  Too fine a crush prohibits a good filter.  At least that is my experience in the limited two brews.

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Thanks! I want one. Gotta wait a while though.
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Re: Rethinking my brewery
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2015, 07:36:00 am »
Yep.  Tops out at 9 lb. of grain, but you can get up to 1.090 with it.  That means that you could make 5 gal. of a 1.045 beer by dilution.  I start with 3.25 gal. of water and end up with a 2.5 gal. batch.
If you were shooting for a bigger beer, could you brew a smaller batch (like 2 gallons) with the full 9 pounds of grain? Or is there a minimum amount of water, or mash thickness constraints? Could you run an iterated mash by replacing the grains and mashing a 2nd time, or are you forced to go straight to the boil process from the mash?
Their suggestion is to increase the gravity by adding DME (from what I recall in the FAQ, they suggest mixing it into the grain bed).  There are supposedly more techniques in their forums also, but since I can't get one at the price Denny did, I haven't gone through the trouble of looking.

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Re: Rethinking my brewery
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2015, 09:26:20 am »

Did you have to open the gap or close it?
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I opened it up a very small amount.  Small enough that it hasn't affected my efficiency when I brew in the cooler.
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Re: Rethinking my brewery
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2015, 09:27:09 am »
If you were shooting for a bigger beer, could you brew a smaller batch (like 2 gallons) with the full 9 pounds of grain? Or is there a minimum amount of water, or mash thickness constraints? Could you run an iterated mash by replacing the grains and mashing a 2nd time, or are you forced to go straight to the boil process from the mash?

I really like the PicoBrew concept. The main constraint on my brewing is time. If I had an appliance that let me "set it and forget it" through the entire mash and boil, I'd be able to brew way more often. I already brew 2.5 gallon batches, so that would work out perfect for me. If the price point was lower, I'd be all over it.

Yep, you can certainly do that.
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Re: Rethinking my brewery
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2015, 09:42:19 am »
I just read up about the zymatic and am considering it. (I wish it was $1k instead of $2k) I see that it doesn't really boil, it heats to just under a boil. Has anyone who has used one brewed some pilsner malt heavy beers that might be susceptible to DMS?
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