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The 3rd fermentation temperature xBmt is complete, this time I used a traditional lager strain fermented 16˚F apart and collected data while at the National Homebrewers Conference... thanks to many of you awesome people!

http://brulosophy.com/2015/06/22/fermentation-temperature-pt-3-lager-yeast-exbeeriment-results/

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Re: Fermentation Temperature - Pt. 3: Lager Yeast | exBEERiment Results!
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2015, 01:29:14 PM »
Wow, pretty interesting. Nice work !
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Re: Fermentation Temperature - Pt. 3: Lager Yeast | exBEERiment Results!
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2015, 01:30:49 PM »
Very cool! This makes me less afraid to try a lager this summer...
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Re: Fermentation Temperature - Pt. 3: Lager Yeast | exBEERiment Results!
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2015, 02:01:06 PM »
wild man, wild.  as a brewer who is only about a year in to focusing on fermentation temp control (and therefor brewing lagers), this is encouraging that there is a margin for error.  ah yes, the old RDWHAHB strikes again.

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Re: Fermentation Temperature - Pt. 3: Lager Yeast | exBEERiment Results!
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2015, 02:04:21 PM »
Nice.  One thing to remember when people mention the 'trained taster' thing is that BJCP judges are not necessarily trained tasters per se.  Many of us literally conduct our own training, and in most cases, it's more geared towards detecting off-flavors and how to fix them.  I need to take better notes on these kind of things.  I don't remember which beer I picked in each (I only remember I picked the red in one and the blue in another lol).

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Re: Fermentation Temperature - Pt. 3: Lager Yeast | exBEERiment Results!
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2015, 02:17:24 PM »
Nice.  One thing to remember when people mention the 'trained taster' thing is that BJCP judges are not necessarily trained tasters per se.  Many of us literally conduct our own training, and in most cases, it's more geared towards detecting off-flavors and how to fix them.  I need to take better notes on these kind of things.  I don't remember which beer I picked in each (I only remember I picked the red in one and the blue in another lol).

This is a great point, Toby, thanks. I used the term "trained taster" to encompass the myriad suggestions I get to use BJCP judges, probably not the best choice.

If you want to know which one you picked, I'm happy to look for you :)

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Re: Fermentation Temperature - Pt. 3: Lager Yeast | exBEERiment Results!
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2015, 02:38:12 PM »
That one really messed with my head dude... it was crazy!
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Re: Fermentation Temperature - Pt. 3: Lager Yeast | exBEERiment Results!
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2015, 02:43:16 PM »
I wonder if a greater disparity would have been noticed with less hop presence in the beer.
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Re: Fermentation Temperature - Pt. 3: Lager Yeast | exBEERiment Results!
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2015, 02:56:04 PM »
This is a great point, Toby, thanks. I used the term "trained taster" to encompass the myriad suggestions I get to use BJCP judges, probably not the best choice.
No, it's a valid choice of words.  It's honestly something that comes up a lot.  I get all sorts of pop quizzes where people ask me to taste something and expect me to be able to tell them all 7 of the hops they used and when or which 4 malts, etc. etc.  That's not what being a certified judge is about.  lol  Yeah, I might be able to make some pretty educated guesses, especially with styles or hops that I use a lot, but I can't detect experimental hop 1352 any better than the average guy off the street can.
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Re: Fermentation Temperature - Pt. 3: Lager Yeast | exBEERiment Results!
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2015, 03:07:39 PM »
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You picked RED. The worst (best?)part is that I had all incorrect guessers compare the 2 similar beers for the next part...

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Re: Fermentation Temperature - Pt. 3: Lager Yeast | exBEERiment Results!
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2015, 03:09:22 PM »
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The worst (best?)part is that I had all incorrect guessers compare the 2 similar beers for the next part...

This from a psychologist. And how did that make you feel? :) Not sure I want to know now.
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Re: Fermentation Temperature - Pt. 3: Lager Yeast | exBEERiment Results!
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2015, 03:16:59 PM »
There are 2 more I can identify in the forum meet up.
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Re: Fermentation Temperature - Pt. 3: Lager Yeast | exBEERiment Results!
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2015, 03:30:30 PM »
Good job, buddy!  I'm pretty sure I go it wrong, but tell me...
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Re: Fermentation Temperature - Pt. 3: Lager Yeast | exBEERiment Results!
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2015, 03:34:29 PM »
I also think I got it wrong but remind me what I picked, if you could.

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Re: Fermentation Temperature - Pt. 3: Lager Yeast | exBEERiment Results!
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2015, 03:48:04 PM »
I also think I got it wrong but remind me what I picked, if you could.

And hey! No women's shirts? Sad panda.  :(

Amanda, you actually got it right :)

We did the women's shirts last time and, quite frankly, the women who ordered them thought they sucked. My wife is about your size and said she much prefers the medium unisex shirts, I think they look better too. It's annoying, as well, because adding the women's option decreases the size of the image on the shirt (hence the small image on the last run).