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Re: 10 Reasons Why the GABF Sucks
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2015, 10:04:12 am »
If the quality of judging is so great, then how do you explain, as the article cites, these results from 2013?

Category 34: American-Style Cream Ale, 37 Entries
Gold: Natural Ice, Anheuser-Busch, St. Louis, MO
Silver: Old Style, Pabst Brewing Co., Los Angeles, CA
Bronze: Rainier, Pabst Brewing Co., Los Angeles, CA


Yes I have drank Natty Ice and yes it tastes terrible.  I can think of at least 20 cream ales off the top of my head that are better.  Of course, any cream ale that I have ever had and can think of its name is better than Natty Ice.

Full disclosure:  Old Style and Rainier aren't too bad of picks of 2nd and 3rd.... ;)

well technically I said that Gordon Strong said the judging quality was very high.  I used his name because, well, who is more qualified to speak of judging quality?  But if you like I can ask him to come defend his position on this thread.

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Re: 10 Reasons Why the GABF Sucks
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2015, 10:56:21 am »
Oh, there's no need to drag Gordon into this thread.  But I have been reading the GABF winner's lists for a long time, and there are definitely some WTF? moments. As the article insinuates, with the sponsorships and such, there seems to be some Alan Freed judges out there.....

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Re: 10 Reasons Why the GABF Sucks
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2015, 11:33:59 am »
Well, within the GABF style guidelines, just about any flavor in a cream ale is a flaw.
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Re: 10 Reasons Why the GABF Sucks
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2015, 11:44:02 am »
It's all really just advertising.  Plenty of breweries don't feel the need to pay to submit their beers.

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Re: 10 Reasons Why the GABF Sucks
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2015, 12:40:51 pm »
It's all really just advertising.  Plenty of breweries don't feel the need to pay to submit their beers.

*Winning* is good advertising. Just attending… Well, most of the customers are there to get drunk, and even the ones who care about the beer aren't likely to be from your distribution area, assuming you're a relatively small brewery.
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Re: 10 Reasons Why the GABF Sucks
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2015, 02:14:56 pm »
It's all really just advertising.  Plenty of breweries don't feel the need to pay to submit their beers.

*Winning* is good advertising. Just attending… Well, most of the customers are there to get drunk, and even the ones who care about the beer aren't likely to be from your distribution area, assuming you're a relatively small brewery.

True. I'm not going to call it a crap-shoot, but when you have that many categories, your odds are good...

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Re: 10 Reasons Why the GABF Sucks
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2015, 02:23:35 pm »
Yup. 1200 breweries, almost 300 medals.
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