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Offline Stevie

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Re: 30 hop additions for a 30th birthday beer
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2015, 08:22:32 am »

you might want to consider going with a 90 minute boil and adding the additions timed to the sequence as well.

Not sure what you mean. Are you suggesting to continue the Fibonacci series up to 90 minutes?

to include the series on quantity AND time so additions at 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, and Dry (although that wouldn't be 144

I looked into that. It wouldn't get me to a sufficiently high IBU. I would have to add a separate bittering hop, but wouldn't that be cheating?

Boil Size: 27.07 l
Post Boil Volume: 22.81 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 20.00 l   
Bottling Volume: 19.17 l
Estimated OG: 1.064 SG
Estimated Color: 17.7 EBC
Estimated IBU: 16.7 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 71.3 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
5.00 kg               Pale Malt (2 Row) Bel (5.9 EBC)          Grain         1        76.9 %       
1.00 kg               Munich Malt - 20L (39.4 EBC)             Grain         2        15.4 %       
0.50 kg               Cara-Pils/Dextrine (3.9 EBC)             Grain         3        7.7 %         

0.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 89.0 min     Hop           4        0.0 IBUs     
1.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 55.0 min     Hop           5        1.1 IBUs     
1.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 34.0 min     Hop           6        0.9 IBUs     
2.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 21.0 min     Hop           7        1.4 IBUs     
3.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 13.0 min     Hop           8        1.5 IBUs     
5.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 8.0 min      Hop           9        1.7 IBUs     
8.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min      Hop           10       1.8 IBUs     
13.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 3.0 min      Hop           11       1.8 IBUs     
21.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 2.0 min      Hop           12       2.0 IBUs     
55.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 1.0 min      Hop           13       2.7 IBUs     
34.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 1.0 min      Hop           14       1.7 IBUs     
89.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool   Hop           15       0.0 IBUs     
144.00 g              Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days  Hop           17       0.0 IBUs     

1.0 pkg               American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 Yeast         16       -           
You could do the 144 minute addition as a hop stand. Flameout at 89 minutes with 89g, then hold it hot until 144 minutes, when you make your last hop addition of 144g.
And dry hop with 233 grams? Not unreasonable.

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Re: 30 hop additions for a 30th birthday beer
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2015, 08:26:56 am »

you might want to consider going with a 90 minute boil and adding the additions timed to the sequence as well.

Not sure what you mean. Are you suggesting to continue the Fibonacci series up to 90 minutes?

to include the series on quantity AND time so additions at 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, and Dry (although that wouldn't be 144

I looked into that. It wouldn't get me to a sufficiently high IBU. I would have to add a separate bittering hop, but wouldn't that be cheating?

Boil Size: 27.07 l
Post Boil Volume: 22.81 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 20.00 l   
Bottling Volume: 19.17 l
Estimated OG: 1.064 SG
Estimated Color: 17.7 EBC
Estimated IBU: 16.7 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 71.3 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
5.00 kg               Pale Malt (2 Row) Bel (5.9 EBC)          Grain         1        76.9 %       
1.00 kg               Munich Malt - 20L (39.4 EBC)             Grain         2        15.4 %       
0.50 kg               Cara-Pils/Dextrine (3.9 EBC)             Grain         3        7.7 %         

0.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 89.0 min     Hop           4        0.0 IBUs     
1.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 55.0 min     Hop           5        1.1 IBUs     
1.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 34.0 min     Hop           6        0.9 IBUs     
2.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 21.0 min     Hop           7        1.4 IBUs     
3.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 13.0 min     Hop           8        1.5 IBUs     
5.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 8.0 min      Hop           9        1.7 IBUs     
8.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min      Hop           10       1.8 IBUs     
13.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 3.0 min      Hop           11       1.8 IBUs     
21.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 2.0 min      Hop           12       2.0 IBUs     
55.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 1.0 min      Hop           13       2.7 IBUs     
34.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 1.0 min      Hop           14       1.7 IBUs     
89.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool   Hop           15       0.0 IBUs     
144.00 g              Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days  Hop           17       0.0 IBUs     

1.0 pkg               American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 Yeast         16       -           
You could do the 144 minute addition as a hop stand. Flameout at 89 minutes with 89g, then hold it hot until 144 minutes, when you make your last hop addition of 144g.
And dry hop with 233 grams? Not unreasonable.

after 233 hours so roughtly at day 10.
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Re: 30 hop additions for a 30th birthday beer
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2015, 08:28:10 am »
apologies to Olan for hijacking his thread.
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Re: 30 hop additions for a 30th birthday beer
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2015, 08:50:20 am »

you might want to consider going with a 90 minute boil and adding the additions timed to the sequence as well.

Not sure what you mean. Are you suggesting to continue the Fibonacci series up to 90 minutes?

to include the series on quantity AND time so additions at 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, and Dry (although that wouldn't be 144

I looked into that. It wouldn't get me to a sufficiently high IBU. I would have to add a separate bittering hop, but wouldn't that be cheating?

Boil Size: 27.07 l
Post Boil Volume: 22.81 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 20.00 l   
Bottling Volume: 19.17 l
Estimated OG: 1.064 SG
Estimated Color: 17.7 EBC
Estimated IBU: 16.7 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 71.3 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
5.00 kg               Pale Malt (2 Row) Bel (5.9 EBC)          Grain         1        76.9 %       
1.00 kg               Munich Malt - 20L (39.4 EBC)             Grain         2        15.4 %       
0.50 kg               Cara-Pils/Dextrine (3.9 EBC)             Grain         3        7.7 %         

0.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 89.0 min     Hop           4        0.0 IBUs     
1.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 55.0 min     Hop           5        1.1 IBUs     
1.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 34.0 min     Hop           6        0.9 IBUs     
2.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 21.0 min     Hop           7        1.4 IBUs     
3.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 13.0 min     Hop           8        1.5 IBUs     
5.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 8.0 min      Hop           9        1.7 IBUs     
8.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min      Hop           10       1.8 IBUs     
13.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 3.0 min      Hop           11       1.8 IBUs     
21.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 2.0 min      Hop           12       2.0 IBUs     
55.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 1.0 min      Hop           13       2.7 IBUs     
34.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 1.0 min      Hop           14       1.7 IBUs     
89.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool   Hop           15       0.0 IBUs     
144.00 g              Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days  Hop           17       0.0 IBUs     

1.0 pkg               American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 Yeast         16       -           
You could do the 144 minute addition as a hop stand. Flameout at 89 minutes with 89g, then hold it hot until 144 minutes, when you make your last hop addition of 144g.
And dry hop with 233 grams? Not unreasonable.

after 233 hours so roughtly at day 10.

And how does that solve my IBU problem?
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Re: 30 hop additions for a 30th birthday beer
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2015, 08:52:30 am »
A hot hop stand will lend considerable IBUs
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Re: 30 hop additions for a 30th birthday beer
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2015, 09:04:54 am »
Switch the additions to 0 (90 left in boil), 1 minute (89 left in boil), 2 minutes, (88 left in boil), 3 minutes, 5 minutes, yada, yada, yada. This will increase your early additions and ibu quite a bit.

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Re: 30 hop additions for a 30th birthday beer
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2015, 08:58:17 am »
Nah, man.  Thread hijacking is part of life, no?  If the conversation is even tangentially related to the post, how can I complain?

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Re: 30 hop additions for a 30th birthday beer
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2015, 06:33:00 am »
OK, so how about this? Double hop fibonnaci series: n grams @ (60 minutes - n). Unfortunately don't know how to fit in dry-hopping time.

Recipe: Two Hearted Fibonacci
Brewer: Homo Eccentricus
Style: Imperial IPA

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 24.68 l
Post Boil Volume: 22.64 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 18.93 l   
Bottling Volume: 17.41 l
Estimated OG: 1.077 SG
Estimated Color: 16.1 EBC
Estimated IBU: 84.0 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 80.5 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
5.00 kg               Pale Malt (2 Row) Bel (5.9 EBC)          Grain         1        73.2 %       
1.50 kg               Pilsner (2 Row) Bel (3.9 EBC)            Grain         2        22.0 %       
0.33 kg               Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (78.8 EBC)    Grain         3        4.8 %         
0.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min     Hop           4        0.0 IBUs     
1.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 59.0 min     Hop           5        1.0 IBUs     
1.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 59.0 min     Hop           6        1.0 IBUs     
2.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 58.0 min     Hop           7        2.0 IBUs     
3.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 57.0 min     Hop           8        2.9 IBUs     
5.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 55.0 min     Hop           9        4.8 IBUs     
8.00 g                Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 52.0 min     Hop           10       7.6 IBUs     
13.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 47.0 min     Hop           11       12.0 IBUs     
21.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 39.0 min     Hop           12       18.0 IBUs     
34.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 26.0 min     Hop           13       23.9 IBUs     
55.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min      Hop           14       10.8 IBUs     
89.00 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool   Hop           15       0.0 IBUs     
1.0 pkg               American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 Yeast         16       -             
144.00 g              Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days  Hop           17       0.0 IBUs     


Notes:
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whirlpool hops: add 29 minutes after flame-off.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2015, 06:46:00 am by homoeccentricus »
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