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Offline klickitat jim

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Re: Simplified BJCP Score Sheet
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2015, 09:31:08 am »
I don't understand why the score isn't simply the number of minutes a judge would stand in line to buy a bottle of the entry.
Because it would be too easy to fake Master level patience?

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Re: Simplified BJCP Score Sheet
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2015, 09:24:49 am »
  I realize this is an old thread, so that may explain why when I clicked on the new scoresheet it said "document expired."
  I hope this isn't that %$#@! NHC score sheet. IMO it's an abomination that equals check off or circle scoring/judging. A good portion of the brews I judge simply don't fall into what you check, or not, then I'm supposed to circle if inappropriate? Judges don't need to be jumping through hoops, they need to be seriously considering an entry. And, from what I've seen, those judges who could care less, who may be just there to drink, skip though them.
  It solves nothing.
   Otherwise, not sure what "new" sheet you're referring to, since "expired."
   Here's my take on BJCP sheets.

http://professorgoodales.net/archives/10935

The AWOG sheet I have taken and adapted for my own competition: The Old Forge BIG Beer and Odd Ale Competition.  

(http://kencarman.wix.com/oldforgeoldale)

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Re: Simplified BJCP Score Sheet
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2015, 10:49:32 am »
It was just an attempt at humor Ken.  One which I enjoyed!
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Re: Simplified BJCP Score Sheet
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2015, 11:41:13 am »
  I realize this is an old thread, so that may explain why when I clicked on the new scoresheet it said "document expired."
  I hope this isn't that %$#@! NHC score sheet. IMO it's an abomination that equals check off or circle scoring/judging. A good portion of the brews I judge simply don't fall into what you check, or not, then I'm supposed to circle if inappropriate? Judges don't need to be jumping through hoops, they need to be seriously considering an entry. And, from what I've seen, those judges who could care less, who may be just there to drink, skip though them.
  It solves nothing.
   Otherwise, not sure what "new" sheet you're referring to, since "expired."
   Here's my take on BJCP sheets.

http://professorgoodales.net/archives/10935

The AWOG sheet I have taken and adapted for my own competition: The Old Forge BIG Beer and Odd Ale Competition.  

(http://kencarman.wix.com/oldforgeoldale)

Ken, what it solves is the NHC  final round taking too ling and bankrupting the AHA!  Seriously, if you had judged final round in Orlando before the sheet came about, you'd fully understand.  Plus, the checkboxes don't prevent you from writing any comments you;d write anyway.
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Re: Simplified BJCP Score Sheet
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2015, 04:16:42 pm »
I'm not a total fan of the check list but in big events they really are necessary for time reasons. Though that probably depends on the judge. Given that the check list is pretty abriviated, I think I could write out a few one or two word descriptors just as quickly as I can read through the check list to pick the right ones.

I'd like to see judges get back to describing the bottle. When you enter a big dark malty beer and the judge dings it for being too pale, too hoppy, and too sour... it would help if they described the bottle.  If yours were brown long necks with black caps, but they wrote green caps, it might explain the issue.

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Re: Simplified BJCP Score Sheet
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2015, 05:54:35 pm »
Wait. Are we arguing over an April Fools joke?
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Re: Simplified BJCP Score Sheet
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2015, 06:02:39 pm »
Wait. Are we arguing over an April Fools joke?
Sadly yes...
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Re: Simplified BJCP Score Sheet
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2015, 06:03:19 pm »
Wait. Are we arguing over an April Fools joke?
Sadly yes...
Haha. Okay, I was a bit confused! :)
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Re: Simplified BJCP Score Sheet
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2015, 04:52:57 am »
Oh...

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Re: Simplified BJCP Score Sheet
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2015, 07:42:58 pm »
Wait. Are we arguing over an April Fools joke?
Sadly yes...
Haha. Okay, I was a bit confused! :)

Ain't the Internet grand ;)
It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.

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Re: Simplified BJCP Score Sheet
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2015, 07:43:07 am »
In the first post I said note the date - April 1. Then had one of these-  8).
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Re: Simplified BJCP Score Sheet
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2015, 10:27:52 am »
  I realize this is an old thread, so that may explain why when I clicked on the new scoresheet it said "document expired."
It is expired because it was an April Fools sheet that was extremely simplistic.  Can be seen here:

https://mashbang.wordpress.com/2015/04/01/bjcp-2015-simplified-score-sheet/