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Re: maiden voyage white labs pure pitch
« Reply #90 on: September 07, 2015, 10:23:40 am »
For the record - I had great success with the 004 Pure Pitch in 5 gallons of ordinary bitter at 1.041.  Finished quickly (as expected) and I have repitched it into an Irish Red 10 gallon batch at 1.055.  Also , I have a side by side 5 gallon Ordinary Bitter with one using 002 Pure Pitch and one using S-33 as a taste comparison.  The 002  took off slightly faster than the rehydrated S-33, but only by a few hours.  So far, Pure Pitch seems to be a  highly viable product (pun intended) at least to this brewer.

agreed- i've seen all i need to for wlp001-002 with great results. looking forward to more strains to hit the shelves- especially my favorite wlp090.
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Re: maiden voyage white labs pure pitch
« Reply #91 on: September 21, 2015, 07:49:57 pm »
Coming late to this party. I just landed a Pure Pitch WLP001, Production July 28th, so almost 2 months old. I'm wondering if a direct pitch in a 1.060 2.5 gallon batch would be sufficient with this date. Judging by the results reported, I'm inclined to give it a try. Tubes of this age would have had me making almost a 1 liter starter. Worth a try for us half-batchers.
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Re: maiden voyage white labs pure pitch
« Reply #92 on: November 24, 2015, 11:38:12 am »
more and more pure pitch showing up at LHBS. they have kolsch wlp029 and belgian wit wlp400 now.

I got a pouch of wlp400 manufactured Nov 12. I will be pitching this direct without starter into a wit this week.
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Re: maiden voyage white labs pure pitch
« Reply #93 on: November 24, 2015, 06:54:53 pm »
So I did end up doing a direct pitch of my pure pitch 001. Lag time was about 18 hours. Pitched into 2.5 gallons of a 1.055 pale ale which finished with an FG of 1.010. Entered that one into a competition and took home my first ever 1st place. Definitely a successful test. :)
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Re: maiden voyage white labs pure pitch
« Reply #94 on: November 24, 2015, 07:24:37 pm »
Congrats on the 1st place
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Re: maiden voyage white labs pure pitch
« Reply #95 on: November 26, 2015, 08:39:44 am »
more and more pure pitch showing up at LHBS. they have kolsch wlp029 and belgian wit wlp400 now.

I got a pouch of wlp400 manufactured Nov 12. I will be pitching this direct without starter into a wit this week.

think layer of krausen at 10am- +17 hrs from pitch. pitched at 64F, now at target 66F.
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Re: maiden voyage white labs pure pitch
« Reply #96 on: December 04, 2015, 11:21:59 am »
more and more pure pitch showing up at LHBS. they have kolsch wlp029 and belgian wit wlp400 now.

I got a pouch of wlp400 manufactured Nov 12. I will be pitching this direct without starter into a wit this week.

think layer of krausen at 10am- +17 hrs from pitch. pitched at 64F, now at target 66F.

i had forgotten how slow wlp400 is. went strong with 3-4 blow offs in week 1 at 66-67F. Now at 70F and still active and ripping away on those sugars.
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Re: maiden voyage white labs pure pitch
« Reply #97 on: December 04, 2015, 04:04:59 pm »
Yeah.  With that top-cropper, you almost have to gently swirl the fermenter to get that yeast back down into the wort to continue fermenting away sometimes.  Great character though. 

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Re: maiden voyage white labs pure pitch
« Reply #98 on: December 04, 2015, 05:49:06 pm »
Is the yeast in WL purepitch is different from that in the tubes?  I seem to pick up that it's less likely to be contaminated than the tubes.  Is there something else?  The WL website does not contain any information that I could find. 

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Re: maiden voyage white labs pure pitch
« Reply #99 on: December 04, 2015, 05:54:29 pm »
Is the yeast in WL purepitch is different from that in the tubes?  I seem to pick up that it's less likely to be contaminated than the tubes.  Is there something else?  The WL website does not contain any information that I could find.

Waiting for the blind side by side test  ;)

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Re: maiden voyage white labs pure pitch
« Reply #100 on: December 04, 2015, 06:06:16 pm »
Is the yeast in WL purepitch is different from that in the tubes?  I seem to pick up that it's less likely to be contaminated than the tubes.  Is there something else?  The WL website does not contain any information that I could find.

Waiting for the blind side by side test  ;)

i hear you-in all seriousness, IMO i promise you its every bit as good and possibly even better than with starter. fermentation is fast and strong, attenuation is at max or above. i've pitched vials without starter with poor results. pure pitch has been exceptional for me. i wont try to convince anyone- just say try it for yourself and see what happens.

Edit: some on this forum have tried my beer. i hold myself to a high standard. if this sucked i would be very happy to say so.
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Re: maiden voyage white labs pure pitch
« Reply #101 on: December 04, 2015, 06:09:48 pm »
Is the yeast in WL purepitch is different from that in the tubes?  I seem to pick up that it's less likely to be contaminated than the tubes.  Is there something else?  The WL website does not contain any information that I could find.

from what i can tell, its higher cell count than the vials. its supposed to be their highest quality . i can only say my results have been exceptional without starters, having used wlp001, 002, and 400 on multiple batches now.

edit: i believe this really ties to what mark has said about yeast and nuclear weapons. high quality, pure, and optimal yeast can and will do very well in lower cell counts than what we or yeast calculators have accustomed us to believe. 
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maiden voyage white labs pure pitch
« Reply #102 on: December 04, 2015, 06:18:12 pm »
maybe we can get marshall to run a brulosophy experiment on this..i just don't have the time or skills to do so.

i will PM him on this.


Edit: ok I think I got Marshall to agree to doing this at some point!  Until then, try it yourself...its just beer
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Re: maiden voyage white labs pure pitch
« Reply #103 on: December 04, 2015, 09:45:29 pm »

maybe we can get marshall to run a brulosophy experiment on this..i just don't have the time or skills to do so.

i will PM him on this.


Edit: ok I think I got Marshall to agree to doing this at some point!  Until then, try it yourself...its just beer

It is on the list... the very loooooong list :)

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Re: maiden voyage white labs pure pitch
« Reply #104 on: December 05, 2015, 06:32:06 am »


maybe we can get marshall to run a brulosophy experiment on this..i just don't have the time or skills to do so.

i will PM him on this.


Edit: ok I think I got Marshall to agree to doing this at some point!  Until then, try it yourself...its just beer

It is on the list... the very loooooong list :)



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Ken- Chagrin Falls, OH
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