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Offline Steve Ruch

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BJCP catagory for pilsner ale
« on: July 21, 2015, 03:21:27 pm »
I recently split a pilsner batch between a pilsner yeast and an ale yeast. Both turned out real good and I was thinking about entering both in an upcoming competition. Would category 23 be the right one for the pilsale?
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Re: BJCP catagory for pilsner ale
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2015, 03:40:19 pm »
I always need help categorizing my beers. Everyone always tells me to enter it as what it tastes like. So, what does it taste like? Even with ale yeast, it could come across as a pilsner depending on the yeast strain, its fermentation and storage profiles.

Could you post your recipe? Depending on the yeast character it could be a blonde ale...
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Re: BJCP catagory for pilsner ale
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2015, 03:41:34 pm »
My thought is why wouldn't it just fall into a blonde ale category?
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Re: BJCP catagory for pilsner ale
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2015, 03:51:11 pm »

My thought is why wouldn't it just fall into a blonde ale category?
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Re: BJCP catagory for pilsner ale
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2015, 03:51:24 pm »
My thought is why wouldn't it just fall into a blonde ale category?

My thought, too.
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Re: BJCP catagory for pilsner ale
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2015, 06:33:05 am »
That, or enter it as a pilsner and see what you get. Depends on how close you feel it tastes to a pilsner vs a blonde ale. But Blonde ale is probably more appropriate.
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Re: BJCP catagory for pilsner ale
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2015, 07:54:39 am »
I always need help categorizing my beers. Everyone always tells me to enter it as what it tastes like. So, what does it taste like? Even with ale yeast, it could come across as a pilsner depending on the yeast strain, its fermentation and storage profiles...

Precisely...just enter it as whatever it most tastes like. That is. after all, the most important parameter and, in the end, the only one that really matters at all.
I've tasted lager beers made with ale yeast that actually tasted more authentically  'lager-like' than some which were made with actual lager yeast.  As suggested by others in this thread, there are factors at play in the flavor profile of a beer other than the type of yeast (or other ingredients) used.
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Re: BJCP catagory for pilsner ale
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2015, 08:35:51 am »
I recently split a pilsner batch between a pilsner yeast and an ale yeast. Both turned out real good and I was thinking about entering both in an upcoming competition. Would category 23 be the right one for the pilsale?

What does it taste like?  That's all the judges will know, not what yeast you used.
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Re: BJCP catagory for pilsner ale
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2015, 03:43:39 pm »
I recently split a pilsner batch between a pilsner yeast and an ale yeast. Both turned out real good and I was thinking about entering both in an upcoming competition. Would category 23 be the right one for the pilsale?

What does it taste like?  That's all the judges will know, not what yeast you used.

It tastes like a pilsner making my experiment successful, but I planned to enter the lager fermented one in the pilsner category and I don't think I'm allowed to enter two beers in one category.
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Re: BJCP catagory for pilsner ale
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2015, 03:45:29 pm »
My thought is why wouldn't it just fall into a blonde ale category?

I also fermented part of the batch with the lager yeast at ale temperature and was thinking about entering that one in the blonde ale category.
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Re: BJCP catagory for pilsner ale
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2015, 03:57:23 pm »
What lager yeast did you use? What 'ale' temps did you use it at?

I am curious about using W34/70 around 60F...
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Re: BJCP catagory for pilsner ale
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2015, 02:03:36 pm »
It might also be a good fit for Cream Ale depending on how bitter it is.
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Re: BJCP catagory for pilsner ale
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2015, 04:01:42 pm »
What lager yeast did you use? What 'ale' temps did you use it at?

I am curious about using W34/70 around 60F...
That should work fine.
I fermented at 72f with WLP830.
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