I recently found myself "over" homebrewtalk. The community is simply too large, and the bigger the crowd the lower IQ. I tried to start a discussion to see if anyone else found Beersmith's interface to be clunky (was wondering if I just didn't "get it") and got berated by some jackass claiming I couldn't handle it because I was in the "iPad Generation." Sorry, the first iPad came out when I was in my late 20's and as an engineer I use technical software all the time. It just rubbed me the wrong way.