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Offline rebelbaserec

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Alaskan Amber Steam?
« on: August 26, 2015, 08:16:53 PM »
So, I started building a California Common beer in Beersmith.  I took a little turn north and ended up here.  I'd love to know what you think.  I've added my reasoning behind my choices, tho I may be wrong.

12 lbs 8.0 oz Golden Promise   98.7 %  (I thought the sweetness may help cut some of the bitterness)
2.7 oz Midnight Wheat 1.3 %   (Just for color, obviously)

1 oz El Dorado [15.00 %] - Boil 20.0 min 
1 oz El Dorado [15.00 %] - Boil 7.0 min   
1 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20.0 min     

German Ale/Kolsch (White Labs #WLP029)   Optimum Ferment Temp: 65-69°F
"Accentuates hop flavors, similar to WLP001. The slight sulfur produced during fermentation will disappear with age and leave a super clean, lager like ale."

2.00 oz El Dorado [15.00 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days   


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Re: Alaskan Amber Steam?
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2015, 08:33:19 PM »
Be careful with the el dorado. In my opinion they can be extremely sweet if not balanced by other hops. It sounds strange but others have experienced that as well...
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Re: Alaskan Amber Steam?
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2015, 08:46:17 PM »
Son, where I'm from, we don't call that a California Common.  We call that a good ole American IPA.

Good recipe, though.

My experience with El Dorado has been very different from most other people's.  I didn't get sweetness from it at all.  Might have helped, though, that I blended mine with Columbus, which totally overpowered it.  Same will go for you, the Citra will overpower it.  No worries.  Go ahead and brew your recipe as-is, I bet it will be very tasty, no matter what you call it (hint: yes, seriously, it is an IPA).
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Re: Alaskan Amber Steam?
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2015, 09:01:22 PM »
I would classify it more in the APA/IPA realm as well. I used WLP029 in a wheat IPA once and loved it. It seem that if you ferment it within their recommended range you get a bit more a fruity/grape character which I like. 58-60F seems very clean and more lager like.
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Re: Alaskan Amber Steam?
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2015, 09:08:30 PM »
I used the other Kolsch yeast 2565 on my last two IPAs and kind of like it, although it's almost too dry.  WLP029 might not turn out quite so dry.  'Course I did mash pretty low, I think 151-152 F, but only for 40 minutes.  Attenuation was over 80%.
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Re: Alaskan Amber Steam?
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2015, 09:13:38 PM »
I used the other Kolsch yeast 2565 on my last two IPAs and kind of like it, although it's almost too dry.  WLP029 might not turn out quite so dry.  'Course I did mash pretty low, I think 151-152 F, but only for 40 minutes.  Attenuation was over 80%.

I usually get around 80% attenuation with WLP029 but normally mash pretty low as well. I am going to do my next kolsch with 2565 for the first time then reuse the yeast for an 'alt' type beer (I know this yeast is not used for alts). I am very excited to see which strain I prefer.

Sorry to go off topic...
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Re: Alaskan Amber Steam?
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2015, 09:19:15 PM »
I usually get around 80% attenuation with WLP029 but normally mash pretty low as well. I am going to do my next kolsch with 2565 for the first time then reuse the yeast for an 'alt' type beer (I know this yeast is not used for alts). I am very excited to see which strain I prefer.

Sorry to go off topic...

(Ditto about off topic, sorry.)  When you do try the 2565, keep in mind that it needs extra time to finish.  Give it a good month, maybe even 5 weeks, to finish attenuating and settling out.  Might also want to add gelatin as it takes forever to settle.  But it tastes great, superior to WLP029 IMHO.
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Re: Alaskan Amber Steam?
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2015, 09:59:23 PM »
I usually get around 80% attenuation with WLP029 but normally mash pretty low as well. I am going to do my next kolsch with 2565 for the first time then reuse the yeast for an 'alt' type beer (I know this yeast is not used for alts). I am very excited to see which strain I prefer.

Sorry to go off topic...

(Ditto about off topic, sorry.)  When you do try the 2565, keep in mind that it needs extra time to finish.  Give it a good month, maybe even 5 weeks, to finish attenuating and settling out.  Might also want to add gelatin as it takes forever to settle.  But it tastes great, superior to WLP029 IMHO.

Thanks for the advice. I will keep that in mind for sure. Hoping to brew that next.
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