[denny]

These results are very interesting, but I'm too chicken to try.  I don't get to brew as often as I would like, so I fear that I'll have a bad batch and not be able to brew for another month.

Bit it's been proven to not happen.  What have you got to lose?

My guess is "5 gallons".

Fortunately, most DMS beers are still drinkable, IMHO.

Except that he won't get DMS.

[dmtaylor]

These results are very interesting, but I'm too chicken to try.  I don't get to brew as often as I would like, so I fear that I'll have a bad batch and not be able to brew for another month.

Bit it's been proven to not happen.  What have you got to lose?

My guess is "5 gallons".

Fortunately, most DMS beers are still drinkable, IMHO.

Except that he won't get DMS.

HE won't because he's going to boil for 90 minutes.  The rest of us won't because we believe in the flying spaghetti monster Marshall Schott. 

[klickitat jim]

Im ascared that if I boil 60 min instead of the usual 90 that I will detect DMS because I will be looking for it.

[dmtaylor]

Im ascared that if I boil 60 min instead of the usual 90 that I will detect DMS because I will be looking for it.

That is a very valid concern.  Well done.

[denny]

Im ascared that if I boil 60 min instead of the usual 90 that I will detect DMS because I will be looking for it.

Yeah...that!  Too many false prophecies are self fulfilling!

[Biran]

These results are very interesting, but I'm too chicken to try.  I don't get to brew as often as I would like, so I fear that I'll have a bad batch and not be able to brew for another month.

Bit it's been proven to not happen.  What have you got to lose?

Well I'm neurotic enough to think, "Okay, but what if I don't boil as vigorously as Marshall did and lose a five gallon batch?"  I have had beers with DMS and I absolutely can't stand it.

[brulosopher]

Applying a boil to something for 30 minutes or 90 should yield different results whether cooking or brewing. I am not saying that DMS will be the difference, but hop utilization and isomerization should at least be different between them, no?

Both were hit with the first hop addition with 30 min left in the boil, the long boil batch just boiled for an hour with nothing.

[brulosopher]

These results are very interesting, but I'm too chicken to try.  I don't get to brew as often as I would like, so I fear that I'll have a bad batch and not be able to brew for another month.

Bit it's been proven to not happen.  What have you got to lose?

Well I'm neurotic enough to think, "Okay, but what if I don't boil as vigorously as Marshall did and lose a five gallon batch?"  I have had beers with DMS and I absolutely can't stand it.

How are you certain it was DMS? I think a lot of people mistake actual good Pils malt character with DMS because they're looking so hard for something different.

[69franx]

Gotcha, guess I read over the set up too quickly or its just my poor comprehension early in the day

[Wort-H.O.G.]

These results are very interesting, but I'm too chicken to try.  I don't get to brew as often as I would like, so I fear that I'll have a bad batch and not be able to brew for another month.

Bit it's been proven to not happen.  What have you got to lose?

Well I'm neurotic enough to think, "Okay, but what if I don't boil as vigorously as Marshall did and lose a five gallon batch?"  I have had beers with DMS and I absolutely can't stand it.

How are you certain it was DMS? I think a lot of people mistake actual good Pils malt character with DMS because they're looking so hard for something different.

+1 to that

[tonyp]

Just wanted to let you know how much I look forward to your posts. Thanks for doing this kind of stuff, its a great read.

[ynotbrusum]

I have heard from experienced judges that you should expressly state that you have used flaked maize in your competition beer, if you have used it, otherwise you risk having it dinged for DMS.  In a tasting class we had the Siebel Institute DMS fault and I found it to be more of a cooked green vegetable flavor and aroma than corn-like.  So I avoid adding green vegetables to my beer.

[brulosopher]

Just wanted to let you know how much I look forward to your posts. Thanks for doing this kind of stuff, its a great read.

Cheers, dude, thanks a lot!

I have heard from experienced judges that you should expressly state that you have used flaked maize in your competition beer, if you have used it, otherwise you risk having it dinged for DMS.  In a tasting class we had the Siebel Institute DMS fault and I found it to be more of a cooked green vegetable flavor and aroma than corn-like.  So I avoid adding green vegetables to my beer.

Exactly. DMS is way more steamed cabbage-y than creamed corn, imo... so no cabbage in the beer!

[dmtaylor]

I have heard from experienced judges that you should expressly state that you have used flaked maize in your competition beer, if you have used it, otherwise you risk having it dinged for DMS.  In a tasting class we had the Siebel Institute DMS fault and I found it to be more of a cooked green vegetable flavor and aroma than corn-like.  So I avoid adding green vegetables to my beer.

That's nice to provide information on the entry form except the judges will probably never see it for simple styles like these.

[hopfenundmalz]

These results are very interesting, but I'm too chicken to try.  I don't get to brew as often as I would like, so I fear that I'll have a bad batch and not be able to brew for another month.

Bit it's been proven to not happen.  What have you got to lose?

Well I'm neurotic enough to think, "Okay, but what if I don't boil as vigorously as Marshall did and lose a five gallon batch?"  I have had beers with DMS and I absolutely can't stand it.

How are you certain it was DMS? I think a lot of people mistake actual good Pils malt character with DMS because they're looking so hard for something different.

Often DMS shows up on my score sheets for Pilsners. The only thing I can figure is that the judge can't tell the difference from a little H2S and DMS. From my experience in Germany you often get a little H2S, and I don't mind it. DMS is something I am fairly sensitive to, and I don't get it in my Pils, which has a 90 minute boil.

Many also will say DMS if they pick up corn in a beer. There are corn aromas that are from other compounds. Does a corn tortilla chip smell like creamed corn?