Author Topic: ABInBevSABMiller - Now there's a mouthful (unfortunately)  (Read 1130 times)

Offline theDarkSide

  • I spend way too much time on the AHA forum
  • ********
  • Posts: 2988
  • Derry, NH
    • View Profile
Seacoast Homebrew Club - Portsmouth, NH
AHA Member
Stephen Mayo
------------------------------------------------

Offline Stevie

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 6858
    • View Profile
Re: ABInBevSABMiller - Now there's a mouthful (unfortunately)
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2015, 01:06:52 PM »
What happens to SABMillers joint venture with Molson Coors?

Offline theDarkSide

  • I spend way too much time on the AHA forum
  • ********
  • Posts: 2988
  • Derry, NH
    • View Profile
Re: ABInBevSABMiller - Now there's a mouthful (unfortunately)
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2015, 01:09:16 PM »
The article mentions they may pick up some brands from the merger.
Seacoast Homebrew Club - Portsmouth, NH
AHA Member
Stephen Mayo
------------------------------------------------

Offline dmtaylor

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 3445
  • Two Rivers, WI
    • View Profile
    • Manty Malters - Meet the Malters! - Dave Taylor
Re: ABInBevSABMiller - Now there's a mouthful (unfortunately)
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2015, 01:28:34 PM »
If this goes through, I guess they'll really have the monopoly now on what is mostly very mediocre beer.  I'll reserve my congratulations for later.
Dave

The world will become a much more pleasant place to live when each and every one of us realizes that we are all idiots.

Offline pete b

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 3123
  • Barre, Ma
    • View Profile
Re: ABInBevSABMiller - Now there's a mouthful (unfortunately)
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2015, 01:34:18 PM »
Then that conglomerate will get bought by someone else. Maybe Kraft or Monsanto.
Don't let the bastards cheer you up.

Offline sambates

  • Cellarman
  • **
  • Posts: 83
    • View Profile
Re: ABInBevSABMiller - Now there's a mouthful (unfortunately)
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2015, 01:39:17 PM »
What's funny is that they used a bottle opener for a twist off bottle in the video...oh brother
Tap: Brandy Barrel Sour, Brett IPA, Tart Cherry Berliner, Sour Coffee Porter, Witbier, Helles Bock, Helles Bock Braggot, Strawberry "Nebraskambic," Raspberry Flanders
Secondary: OatRye Blonde, Plout Sour, Blueberry Ginger Sour
Primary:Belgian Dark Strong, Scottish Wee Heavy, American Session Wild Ale, Brandy Barrel "Lincolnambic"

Offline HoosierBrew

  • Global Moderator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 13030
  • Indianapolis,IN
    • View Profile
Re: ABInBevSABMiller - Now there's a mouthful (unfortunately)
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2015, 01:43:35 PM »
If this goes through, I guess they'll really have the monopoly now on what is mostly very mediocre beer.  I'll reserve my congratulations for later.

Yep. And they'll have even more working capital to buy up more craft breweries. Aside from all the extra sh!**y beer.
Jon H.

Offline homoeccentricus

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2008
  • A twerp from Antwerp
    • View Profile
Re: ABInBevSABMiller - Now there's a mouthful (unfortunately)
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2015, 01:58:18 PM »
I can see the AHA HQ move to Brussels in due course.
Frank P.

Staggering on the shoulders of giant dwarfs.

Offline dmtaylor

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 3445
  • Two Rivers, WI
    • View Profile
    • Manty Malters - Meet the Malters! - Dave Taylor
Re: ABInBevSABMiller - Now there's a mouthful (unfortunately)
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2015, 02:01:24 PM »
Aren't there laws against monopolization?  For when survival of the fittest one is less desirable than survival of the fittest several?  I know nothing about this but seem to recall such a thing.
Dave

The world will become a much more pleasant place to live when each and every one of us realizes that we are all idiots.

Offline pete b

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 3123
  • Barre, Ma
    • View Profile
Re: ABInBevSABMiller - Now there's a mouthful (unfortunately)
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2015, 02:33:01 PM »
Aren't there laws against monopolization? 
Apparently none that have been enforced for the last 30-35 years of our plutocracy.
Don't let the bastards cheer you up.

Offline kramerog

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1855
    • View Profile
    • My LinkedIn page
Re: ABInBevSABMiller - Now there's a mouthful (unfortunately)
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2015, 02:35:25 PM »
Aren't there laws against monopolization?  For when survival of the fittest one is less desirable than survival of the fittest several?  I know nothing about this but seem to recall such a thing.
In the US, that is called antitrust.  In Europe that is called competition law.  I can't see how this merger would be allowed to happen without divesting some major brands and some breweries in the US.  I'm not sure how dominant the these companies are in other countries, but I believe Heineken is independent of these two, so I'm not sure what would happen in Europe and other parts of the world.

If I was a beer distributor, I'd be freaking out.

Offline Slowbrew

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2432
  • The Slowly Losing IT Brewery in Urbandale, IA
    • View Profile
Re: ABInBevSABMiller - Now there's a mouthful (unfortunately)
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2015, 04:27:20 PM »
Aren't there laws against monopolization?  For when survival of the fittest one is less desirable than survival of the fittest several?  I know nothing about this but seem to recall such a thing.
In the US, that is called antitrust.  In Europe that is called competition law.  I can't see how this merger would be allowed to happen without divesting some major brands and some breweries in the US.  I'm not sure how dominant the these companies are in other countries, but I believe Heineken is independent of these two, so I'm not sure what would happen in Europe and other parts of the world.

If I was a beer distributor, I'd be freaking out.

Distribution will be next in line for consolidation.  Some will have to survive due to the 3 tier system in many states.  I can see the day when all of today's major distributors are reduced to one per major area.  As far as I can tell Des Moines already only has 2 or 3.  It has caused many problems from what I've heard for the craft brewers here.  One major one being the restrictions on growler sales which technically have to go through the 3 tier system for customers to take them home.  This may have been fixed but I haven't checked in a long time.

At one time several breweries downtown couldn't get any distributor to deal with them since the volume was too small to be worth the time.  With only one in a given area it would be even worse.

Paul
Where the heck are we going?  And what's with this hand basket?

Offline Thirsty_Monk

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2344
  • Eau Claire WI
    • View Profile
Re: ABInBevSABMiller - Now there's a mouthful (unfortunately)
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2015, 02:18:31 AM »
I am not concerned what bankers are doing. I am more concerned about supply chains.
Na Zdravie

On Tap At The TapRoom:
Bohemian Pilsner
Bohemian Dark Lager
Smoked Bock
MaiBock
American Brown Ale
Marzen
Root beer

Offline tommymorris

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2100
  • Tommy M.
    • View Profile
Re: ABInBevSABMiller - Now there's a mouthful (unfortunately)
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2015, 02:16:11 PM »
I make my own beer ;)

Offline denny

  • Administrator
  • Retired with too much time on my hands
  • *****
  • Posts: 19938
  • Noti OR [1991.4, 287.6deg] AR
    • View Profile
    • Dennybrew
Re: ABInBevSABMiller - Now there's a mouthful (unfortunately)
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2015, 03:36:48 PM »
I read a financial analysis of this deal today.  Apparently, the domestic market is slipping away from them and they see Africa as a way to compensate for that.  People there are moving from homebrewing (nothing like what we do!) into buying beer and by owning SAB they can capitalize in that.
Life begins at 60.....1.060, that is!

www.dennybrew.com

The best, sharpest, funniest, weirdest and most knowledgable minds in home brewing contribute on the AHA forum. - Alewyfe

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell