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Wyeast PC 3725 Biere de Garde
« on: September 28, 2015, 11:07:51 PM »
Just purchased a couple of packs of this prior to the end of Sept. deadline for later brewing this fall/early winter.  I have never used this strain before and was wondering if anyone had any experiences (positive or negative) with it?  I sure do enjoy a nice malty, dry biere de garde when they are brewed properly....

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Re: Wyeast PC 3725 Biere de Garde
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2015, 11:21:05 PM »
I've used it many times. You won't be disappointed. I have one that I brewed two months ago that is going on tap this week. I've found that it takes that long for it to come into its own. I fermented it in the low 70s. I'll let you know how it came out in a couple of days.
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Re: Wyeast PC 3725 Biere de Garde
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2015, 10:36:02 PM »
Do you remember what temp you pitched at? I am looking for a somewhat clean fermentation profile vs. an overly fruity one.  Thanks in advance....

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Re: Wyeast PC 3725 Biere de Garde
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2015, 11:34:17 PM »
Do you remember what temp you pitched at? I am looking for a somewhat clean fermentation profile vs. an overly fruity one.  Thanks in advance....

I pitched at 68F and let it rise naturally over just a few days. I left it in primary for three weeks and conditioned it in the keg for another month or so.

I tried it tonight, and it is  malty and dry as it should be, but the alcohol is a bit hot. It might need a little more time, though it is quite strong at 8.6% ABV. If it's anything like other bieres de garde that I've brewed, it will continue to improve for the month or so that it lasts. It is not fruity at all.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2015, 11:37:08 PM by Frankenbrew »
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Re: Wyeast PC 3725 Biere de Garde
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2015, 03:21:39 AM »
I have used this yeast and like it a lot. I too pitched at 68F and I kept it there for 24 hrs. before raising it eventually to 75F or so to finish out. The yeast is malt accentuating as advertised. I did find it to have a very pleasant but mild spicy estery quality to it. I noticed no phenolics either time I used it. I would call it a mild saison yeast. If you want clean I would recommend to ferment colder than 68F or try a cleaner yeast. WY2124 or maybe WLP011. WY3725 also has an initial sweetness just as Wyeast describes. It will finish dry however. This yeast is indeed highly attenuative. Beers of 1.069 and 1.075 mashed at 154F and 152F respectively both finished at 1.007.
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Re: Wyeast PC 3725 Biere de Garde
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2015, 09:43:48 PM »
My attenuation numbers are similar to yours, hence the 8.6% ABV. I agree with your flavor/aroma description, but I would put an emphasis on the mild. In my experience/opinion, there is something with this yeast that you don't get with the European ale yeast (WLP011), or with a lager yeast. Maybe it's the spicy/saison type flavor you mention--but to me, it's slightly different, something you only get in the French ale, either the Wy3725 or the WLP072.
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Re: Wyeast PC 3725 Biere de Garde
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2015, 10:00:50 PM »
Wow!  Good to know that it can really dry things out.  How dextrinous were your grain bills on those 152-154F mashes?

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Re: Wyeast PC 3725 Biere de Garde
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2015, 02:03:02 AM »
Wow!  Good to know that it can really dry things out.  How dextrinous were your grain bills on those 152-154F mashes?
Good question. The 1.075 beer was a had a pound (6%) of C80 but also a pound (6%) of D-45 candy syrup. Mashed at 152F

The 1.069 beer had no crystal and no sugar adjunct and was mashed at 154F.

Again both finished at 1.007. Hope that was what you were looking for.

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Re: Wyeast PC 3725 Biere de Garde
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2015, 02:51:39 PM »
Thanks.  Just looking to settle in on a good mash temp for the recipe that is still a work in progress (in my head right now).  I just won some 5 SRM Gold liquid candi syrup from a local comp that I might be incorporating into my amber biere de garde. 

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Re: Wyeast PC 3725 Biere de Garde
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2015, 12:59:19 PM »
What's going on here?
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Re: Wyeast PC 3725 Biere de Garde
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2015, 01:29:29 PM »
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Re: Wyeast PC 3725 Biere de Garde
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2015, 01:34:15 PM »
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Re: Wyeast PC 3725 Biere de Garde
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2015, 01:45:16 PM »
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Re: Wyeast PC 3725 Biere de Garde
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2015, 03:04:11 PM »
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