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Offline klickitat jim

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Re: Irish Dry Stout - Final recipe?
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2015, 06:27:46 pm »
Testing the pH of Guinness is a good idea.
Almost did it today but all they had a the wiggly piggly was guinness export... thats probably not the same

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Re: Irish Dry Stout - Final recipe?
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2015, 09:45:47 pm »

This is actually a style that is well suited to using low alkalinity water and reserving the roast. Figure what to add to the main mash to produce a 5.3 to 5.4 mash pH and then add the roast at the end to drive the kettle wort pH lower. The style relies on the crispness of low pH to help accentuate the roast and contrast it to the raw barley flavor. Don't target a high pH for this style.

This is key if you want to brew a good Dry Stout. I wouldn't add the roast at the end of the mash, you will lose color and flavor. Just keep the PH low. You can even mash at 5.1 to 5.3. And target 5.2 preboil so you can end up with 5.0 or so.
Another important thing is to make a very good mash recirculation/filtering to avoid ending up with astringent particles from the roasted barley in the kettle.

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Re: Irish Dry Stout - Final recipe?
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2015, 06:54:57 am »

This is actually a style that is well suited to using low alkalinity water and reserving the roast. Figure what to add to the main mash to produce a 5.3 to 5.4 mash pH and then add the roast at the end to drive the kettle wort pH lower. The style relies on the crispness of low pH to help accentuate the roast and contrast it to the raw barley flavor. Don't target a high pH for this style.

This is key if you want to brew a good Dry Stout. I wouldn't add the roast at the end of the mash, you will lose color and flavor. Just keep the PH low. You can even mash at 5.1 to 5.3. And target 5.2 preboil so you can end up with 5.0 or so.
Another important thing is to make a very good mash recirculation/filtering to avoid ending up with astringent particles from the roasted barley in the kettle.

im going to take another position on t his one: the suggestion for lower PH is great when roast is removed from the mash. the roast malts I would either cold steep and or mash seperately at higher PH, or save for sparge. you can even use sinmar or maltoferm A-6000 to add color.

my goal for this style is smooth, non astingent sharp roast in finished product, with dry crisp finish.
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Re: Irish Dry Stout - Final recipe?
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2015, 01:01:22 pm »
just ran PH test on Guinness (suspense was killing me)


3.88 PH-degassed at room temp.
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Re: Irish Dry Stout - Final recipe?
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2015, 03:55:30 pm »
Thanks for doing that Ken. All I could find around here was G extra stout

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Re: Irish Dry Stout - Final recipe?
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2015, 04:04:05 pm »
I should thank you ( or curse you ) for the inspiration!


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Re: Irish Dry Stout - Final recipe?
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2015, 04:45:01 pm »
Well... blame Mchrispen. He gave me the meter. Talk about a little knowledge being dangerous,  thats me for sure.